Yes- the Churches we were involved with for decades placed a lot of importance on believing the Holy Spirit was active, and was to be active, in the Church- not just the 'fruit' of the Spirit, but the works and gifts of the Spirit which evidently played an important role of confirming truth when the Apostles took the Gospel to the world- signs and wonders, miracles and healings, confirming their words and faith- so there are Christians who do believe this was to remain in the Church until the end- (and indeed you can read about these throughout this 2000 Church age).KingdomBuilder wrote:Ahh, bingo! I searched a few times about "quenching the holy spirit" and could absolutely not find it (maybe I was up too later; maybe I'm just not so grand at using the internet...). I haven't really studied 1 Thess. in it's entirety, but Ephesians is one of my favorite books.Valerie wrote:I am familliar with the teachings of 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22 regarding QUENCHING the Holy Spirit vs Ephesians 4 :30 regarding GRIEVING the Holy Spirit. Coming from Pentecost Church I feel they have an accurate understanding of the difference beteen "quenching" vs "grieving" the Holy Spirit. Looking and comparing both passages in context, it seems clear they are not the same thing- how would you summarize the differences after reading the passages? What would you say the difference is between the meaning of quench & meaning of grieve? This should help
I agree they aren't the same. Quenching seems to be a willful opposition to the works/ deeds of the Spirit.
Consider Jesus words here:
10The ax lies ready at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire. 11I baptize you with water for repentance, but after me will come One more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. 12His winnowing fork is in His hand to clear His threshing floor and to gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”…
So quenching the Holy Spirit would be similar to putting out the fire of the Holy Spirit- and the works of the Holy Spirit which as we study for example the books of Acts, we witness what the Holy Spirit was actually doing-