steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 6:30 am
Vote and discuss. Don't worry ladies, I have a poll coming up just for you
As promised, we got one for the ladies' side.
What women's dress code and fashion is regulated by your church? Either a written standard or commonly understood? Open to all registered users, check all that apply and comment as needed.
(ETA: I am assuming that the majority of the churches represented here wouldn't be in favor of women wearing pants)
Used to be # 1 (cape dress).
Then it was something like # 3, with some written standards about skirt length (as I recall).
Now? After over 25 years in this congregation, I can’t tell anymore. (I couldn't even mark any of the given options.)
The MB church I attended prior to Covid-19 would be 'none of the above'.
Personally, I agree and believe women's dress/fashion is an individual issue to be directed by the Holy Spirit as to what is modest apparel. Scripture puts the focus for a woman on being noticed for their good deeds and not their outward apparel. Not all Anabaptists interpret 1 Timothy 2:9-10 the same. I think the MB church I attended would understand this text much like the NLT version -
And I want women to be modest in their appearance. They should wear decent and appropriate clothing and not draw attention to themselves by the way they fix their hair or by wearing gold or pearls or expensive clothes. For women who claim to be devoted to God should make themselves attractive by the good things they do.
And, of course, should verses 9 and 10 be taken literally and verse 8. having to do with men, not be ?
(as long as women are picked on by these kind of threads, I'll stand up for men's equal opportunity to obey)
The origins of this topic started with shaving legs and why some conservative groups out there make a big deal of it. Basically, as fashion trended toward shorter skirts, the razor companies began advertising women's accessories. I think it was the 1950's when it was more/less commonplace for ladies to shave.
I am not immediately away of any specific group that makes leg shaving a test of membership, but I do know there is a mindset among the older generations.
steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:24 pm
The origins of this topic started with shaving legs and why some conservative groups out there make a big deal of it. Basically, as fashion trended toward shorter skirts, the razor companies began advertising women's accessories. I think it was the 1950's when it was more/less commonplace for ladies to shave.
I am not immediately away of any specific group that makes leg shaving a test of membership, but I do know there is a mindset among the older generations.
Interestingly enough, prior to Sunday School coming into the church, women speaking in church was never a questioned thing. Now it seems to be accepted as okay and that the verses were never meaning that the women were suppose to be silent.
steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:24 pm
The origins of this topic started with shaving legs and why some conservative groups out there make a big deal of it. Basically, as fashion trended toward shorter skirts, the razor companies began advertising women's accessories. I think it was the 1950's when it was more/less commonplace for ladies to shave.
I am not immediately away of any specific group that makes leg shaving a test of membership, but I do know there is a mindset among the older generations.
As I understand it started in Hollywood because of the details of shooting movie scenes and then people picked up the habit of trying to look like movie stars.
steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:24 pm
The origins of this topic started with shaving legs and why some conservative groups out there make a big deal of it. Basically, as fashion trended toward shorter skirts, the razor companies began advertising women's accessories. I think it was the 1950's when it was more/less commonplace for ladies to shave.
I am not immediately away of any specific group that makes leg shaving a test of membership, but I do know there is a mindset among the older generations.
As I understand it started in Hollywood because of the details of shooting movie scenes and then people picked up the habit of trying to look like movie stars.
I was under the impression that women mostly started shaving legs during WW2 when wartime production absorbed most of the silk and nylon which made stockings scarce. Before that they mostly wore silk or cotton stockings which are thick enough that leg hair doesn’t show. The super-thin nearly transparent modern nylon stockings came much later. There was even a wartime fad where women would draw lines down the backs of their bare legs to make it look like they were wearing seamed silk stockings.
But then I’m not a fashion historian so I could be wrong about all of that.
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A fool can throw out more questions than a wise man can answer. -RZehr
At the outset of the United States, leg and underarm hair removal was not a common practice for women. In fact, body hair had been viewed as a boon by Caucasian people, and therefore removal was not an imported practice from European settlers into the United States. The removal of armpit and leg hair by American women became a new practice in the early 20th century due to a confluence of multiple factors.
One cultural change was the definition of femininity. In the Victorian era, it was based on moral character. This shifted in the early 1920s when the new feminine idea became based on the body. Women revealed more of their bodies in 1920s clothing; and at the same time they began using bras, makeup, and dieting. Author of The Body Project, J. Brumberg, summarizes, "The body itself became the fashion in the 1920s."In this context, hair removal was promoted as a gender norm requirement for women, to be attained through consumption and use of hair removal products.
It should not be surprising at all that more conservative/traditional plain people rejected these changes in the 1920s. Most conservative Anabapatist groups that exist today accepted these changes in the 1920s, but most Old Order groups rejected these changes.
