The CAM scandal links and assorted other topics thread

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The best solution in such cases is simply an improved culture: a system in which a man can publicly state the he gets aroused by little boys without fear of blame or shame - nothing more normal than this -, and the church then can soberly decide that he isn't the best choice for working at an orphanage etc.
Treating all this as a "shocking" deviance only makes things worse.
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Josh

Re: The *official* CAM scandal links thread

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Neoanabaptist wrote:The best solution in such cases is simply an improved culture: a system in which a man can publicly state the he gets aroused by little boys without fear of blame or shame - nothing more normal than this -, and the church then can soberly decide that he isn't the best choice for working at an orphanage etc.
Treating all this as a "shocking" deviance only makes things worse.
The current culture can’t really cope with publicly acknowledging that a man gets aroused by adult women. Perhaps addressing that problem first would be a good place to start.

Much of what conservative Christians think is “holiness” is actually just denial. It’s a big game of pretending.
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Neoanabaptist wrote:The best solution in such cases is simply an improved culture: a system in which a man can publicly state the he gets aroused by little boys without fear of blame or shame - nothing more normal than this -, and the church then can soberly decide that he isn't the best choice for working at an orphanage etc.
Treating all this as a "shocking" deviance only makes things worse.
say what??????
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Re: The *official* CAM scandal links thread

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So what do we think the purpose of this site is?

http://www.jeriahmast.info/
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blackfriar wrote:So what do we think the purpose of this site is?

http://www.jeriahmast.info/
It's registered to Domains by Proxy, which means the site owner doesn't want you to know who they are. Most likely it's a lawyer hoping to cash in on the whole thing, using the site to scoop up contact information for potential clients.
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Re: The *official* CAM scandal links thread

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Neoanabaptist wrote:The best solution in such cases is simply an improved culture: a system in which a man can publicly state the he gets aroused by little boys without fear of blame or shame - nothing more normal than this -, and the church then can soberly decide that he isn't the best choice for working at an orphanage etc.
Treating all this as a "shocking" deviance only makes things worse.
This is on the very edge, and maybe a little past, acceptable comments here. I would warn against continuing down this path. Any further and we will respond with some kind of moderation.
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Re: The *official* CAM scandal links thread

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Pelerin wrote:
blackfriar wrote:So what do we think the purpose of this site is?

http://www.jeriahmast.info/
It's registered to Domains by Proxy, which means the site owner doesn't want you to know who they are. Most likely it's a lawyer hoping to cash in on the whole thing, using the site to scoop up contact information for potential clients.
I'm not sure that's the case. The wording used makes it seems more like someone who is looking for information to defend Jeriah and/or CAM. Some things on the website that caught my attention.

"We need any and all pictures, videos, audio, documents, etc. that may identify, implicate, or absolve Jeriah Mast or potential cooperators including allegations for or against Christian Aid Ministries."

"This small excerpt is a small part of a lengthy, rambling post followed by still more posts." (This was in reference to Trudy Metzger's first blog post).

"Copyright © 2019 Jeriah Mast for Truth"
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Josh

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I'd be pretty suspicious of whomever is running that. If one wants to read Trudy's blog, one can simply go and read Trudy's blog.

No one should submit documents to some anonymous third party with no idea what they will be doing with them. One might as well just post them publicly instead.
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blackfriar wrote:So what do we think the purpose of this site is?

http://www.jeriahmast.info/
In my opinion it would be foolish to give anyone files and pictures who hides their identity.

Also this is the internet -those files are public as soon as you share them.
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Re: The *official* CAM scandal links thread

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In full disclosure, my first instinct was that I should just upload a bunch of spam to it, but on 2nd thought better judgment won the day.
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