Coronavirus Outbreak

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
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Judas Maccabeus wrote:
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Josh wrote:Last I checked nobody is forced to drink city tap water.
Our rural area has higher than normal radon levels in its water supply (I think because of the ancient pipeline). A couple of times a week, we come into town and buy our drinking water. So there are options.
If it is well water, it is likely the thorium in the rocks. If you are still in Colorado, you do know that just about all granite is radioactive. This of course includes your countertop.

J.M.
I think I’ve heard that before. I’ve had a number of conversations about the high rate of cancer (anecdotally) among area ranchers and farmers. My wife’s father died of cancer when she was a teenager. Don’t know if it’s related to the water or hazardous agricultural materials.
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Judas Maccabeus wrote:
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Judas Maccabeus wrote: Bring on general Jack D Ripper!

J.M.
Did somebody on MennoNet make a (GASP) Dr. Strangelove reference, which is a (DOUBLE GASP) Stanley Krubrick film?
This surprises you. I wonder if he is advocating drinking what general Jack did to prevent his “essence “ from being poisoned by the communists?

J.M.
I’m being facetious. :D It’s just that Kubrick is so far, far away from anything I associate with conservative Anabaptism.

I will say that 2001 is a beautiful, thought provoking film that I’ve fallen asleep to many, many times.
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Szdfan wrote:
Judas Maccabeus wrote:
Szdfan wrote: Did somebody on MennoNet make a (GASP) Dr. Strangelove reference, which is a (DOUBLE GASP) Stanley Krubrick film?
This surprises you. I wonder if he is advocating drinking what general Jack did to prevent his “essence “ from being poisoned by the communists?

J.M.
I’m being facetious. :D It’s just that Kubrick is so far, far away from anything I associate with conservative Anabaptism.

I will say that 2001 is a beautiful, thought provoking film that I’ve fallen asleep to many, many times.
Remember, I am NMB. However Dr. Strangelove was a movie I remember so well because I had so many acquaintances that were almost John Burch types. Now, they are Trumpists.

J.M.
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Judas Maccabeus wrote:
Szdfan wrote:
Judas Maccabeus wrote:
This surprises you. I wonder if he is advocating drinking what general Jack did to prevent his “essence “ from being poisoned by the communists?

J.M.
I’m being facetious. :D It’s just that Kubrick is so far, far away from anything I associate with conservative Anabaptism.

I will say that 2001 is a beautiful, thought provoking film that I’ve fallen asleep to many, many times.
Remember, I am NMB. However Dr. Strangelove was a movie I remember so well because I had so many acquaintances that were almost John Burch types. Now, they are Trumpists.

J.M.
I had forgotten that you’re NMB. :oops:

I think that Dr. Strangelove is uncomfortably prescient in numerous ways.
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Josh

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It certainly is - particularly showing how paranoid some people are of “the Russians”.
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To put things into perspective:

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Robert wrote:To put things into perspective:

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Death rate from this appears to be about 2%, that is way higher than the flu. No one has any immunity to this, so you likely will get it if exposed. Personally, it is no surprise it came from china. Below, some traditional medicine made from feces.

https://cmjournal.biomedcentral.com/art ... 019-0253-x

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i’m ok with quarantines, attempts to isolate, contain, prevent disease.
quarantines are temporary, and effective. logical.

i’m happy about the idea of attempting to “get ahead” of potential problems, rather than always running behind, late/never catching up.

in this case, quarantines may have additional benefit of lessening spread of cases of established flu, and other communicable disease ? ?

i presume the hype is because this virus is damaging and deadly, also, reports are it can recur, when it does, recurrence symptoms are worse. mutations are another potential.

i’m ok with going through the motions of prevention and response. something worse could happen.
it’s not a bad idea for responsible leaders and ordinary citizens to have an idea of what to expect. like fire drills.

big natural disasters happen. disease is one form.

i wonder how pilots+crews think about their roles, and their exposure, in situations like this.
what if they choose to stay home for awhile? there are lots of things to consider in “what if?” situations. many are dependent on the “daily system” to function properly for survival.

the reports i see continue to range from, “it’s nothing” to “take all precautions, it’s inevitable.”

i believe i got the swine flu late in its progression. it was July!
it was MISERABLE. i had visitors. i refused to let them in the house. we talked through glass.
they brought medicine, left it on the porch. they didn’t get sick. :D

i didn’t go to the doctor. i didn’t want to infect anyone else.
the nurse thanked me. :)
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Judas Maccabeus wrote: Death rate from this appears to be about 2%, that is way higher than the flu.
J.M.
Flu has a 17.5% death rate in the US if those numbers are correct. Sounds a little high.
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This is from the CDC website.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/pr ... imates.htm

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This would give the flu a .14% death rate.
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