Coronavirus Outbreak

[Wayne in Maine]

I just got a call from the Maine State CDC, informing me that I may have been exposed to Covid-19. I’m glad for the diligence in the contract tracing (I know who I was exposed to and the circumstances). The fact that I have been vaccinated means that no further action is necessary on my part.

[RZehr]

Who is has more protection from Covid:
Person who had Covid twice.
Person who has been fully vaccinated by the book.
Or is there little to no difference?

[Szdfan]

Who is has more protection from Covid:
Person who had Covid twice.
Person who has been fully vaccinated by the book.
Or is there little to no difference?

Probably person who has had Covid and has been vaccinated since then.

From what I’ve read, repeat Covid infections are rare, but the second time is usually much worse than the first.

The duration and durability of immunity from getting Covid is unknown and still being studied.

[RZehr]

Who is has more protection from Covid:
Person who had Covid twice.
Person who has been fully vaccinated by the book.
Or is there little to no difference?

Probably person who has had Covid and has been vaccinated since then.

From what I’ve read, repeat Covid infections are rare, but the second time is usually much worse than the first.

The duration and durability of immunity from getting Covid is unknown and still being studied.

I agree that we don't know for sure, because Covid is new. But if we take what we do know from other diseases, and what we know about the body's immune system, and what we know about traditional vaccines, I think one would be able to come up with an expectation.

[Ken]

Who is has more protection from Covid:
Person who had Covid twice.
Person who has been fully vaccinated by the book.
Or is there little to no difference?

Probably person who has had Covid and has been vaccinated since then.

From what I’ve read, repeat Covid infections are rare, but the second time is usually much worse than the first.

The duration and durability of immunity from getting Covid is unknown and still being studied.

I agree that we don't know for sure, because Covid is new. But if we take what we do know from other diseases, and what we know about the body's immune system, and what we know about traditional vaccines, I think one would be able to come up with an expectation.

According to what I've read, subsequent infections are very rare for both the fully vaccinated and those who have caught Covid and recovered. And that subsequent infections are generally LESS severe rather than more severe. That's what this article says anyway: https://www.statnews.com/2021/04/07/cov ... seem-rare/

It also says they don't have enough data to answer RZehr's question. But that none of the outbreaks anywhere in the US or abroad seem to be happening as a result of re-infections. They are all driven by first-time infections.

[RZehr]

That would be my experience and expectation - that subsequent contractions would be less severe that the first.
Based on what we know about coronaviruses, immunity, and traditional vaccines, I think it is reasonable to roughly equate getting the virus with getting the shot. And getting it twice with getting the shot twice.

The main variable factor though, is that this is not a traditional vaccine, but instead mRNA.
And then we also seem to have anecdotal accounts of people’s second shot causing problems.

These two things should be weighed as to how much these “vaccines” will be expected to perform in comparison with traditional vaccines.

They aren’t able to vaccines against the common cold coronavirus because of the many, and constantly changing strains make the protection short lived, and not economically worth doing. With Covid-19, the money is there to change the problem.

But the way it’s looking now? It looks like a flue shot. Do it every fall for short term protection. If that is where this ends up, why bother? It will probably weaken, and just be a choice for people.

[Ernie]

From what I’ve read, repeat Covid infections are rare, but the second time is usually much worse than the first.

Correct, if we are talking about reinfections from the same variant.

Repeats are common in places where the new variants are circulating.

[Ernie]

Some helpful information from Dr. John.

[Robert]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/trader-j ... -customers

Fully vaccinated people can throw off their masks when shopping at Trader Joe’s, Walmart, Sam’s Club, and Costco.

In separate announcements on Friday, the companies invited shoppers who have taken the vaccine to come to their stores without wearing masks, in accordance with CDC guidelines. However, the stores say they will comply with any state or local mandates.

I was no longer required to wear a mask at work several weeks ago.

[mike]

Daily new covid cases numbers are dropping pretty fast. Although, just to keep perspective, we're still seeing about the same number of new cases daily that we saw back in the first wave of the virus in the spring of 2020.




Daily deaths still show no spike at all from the 4th wave of the virus and in fact keep declining slowly. At this rate of decrease (currently in the low 600s per day), the daily deaths will soon be below the lowest numbers from any time during 2020 after the first wave began (lowest I saw was 518).



So the trends are good.