how magnanimous of you.Judas Maccabeus wrote:It would only be dangerous for the poor. The people of means faced no risk.RZehr wrote:I’d rather it be dangerous and life threatening than legal, safe and convenient.
Murder should be a dangerous activity and the consequences should be serious and immediate.
Ecclesiastes 8:11 Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.
Once again, I am opposed to abortion, but just making sure all of you young folk are aware of the realities of the pre Rowe world.
J.M.
for comparison, it would be marvelous to see a true, full list of pros+cons, of birth control pills and abortion, i’m not sure that’s possible, because so many social and cultural aspects are involved.
one interesting reality of God’s design is, poor people have an easier time humbling themselves to Him, and, this includes their attitudes and acceptance of life’s realities. in the poor family i grew up in, and in that (“culturally mixed”) community, before RvW, chastity until marriage was valued and prioritized, marriage was prioritized, convenient+planned or not, CHILDREN WERE LOVED AND VALUED.
cheap+free contraception/abortion has robbed poor people of more than it’s “gifted.”
when i was in high school, i heard rumors 2 different girls had gotten pregnant. one was wealthy, one was poor. both left school to have their babies. one beautiful cousin scandalously “got pregnant” at 16, she left school, married the father, they had 2 more .. she is now the very very happy, doting grandmother of several, very close to her 3 sons. abortion would have improved .. what??
pregnant (children/teens) were removed from public school settings in those days, they began adult life early, often with help of their families, the new+valued babies took priority (of course!) lives adjusted to nurture (not eliminate) new life.
30 years later, i was shocked when our daughter came home from middle school talking about the pregnant girls in gym class - accommodations are now made for them, there are now so many, premarital sex is no longer taboo, child pregnancies are normalized.
sadly, our children’s pediatrician shared some of his thoughts, that teen pregnancy is frequent and sad, not only emotionally and financially unprepared, but teen bodies are still growing, they are not physically prepared for pregnancy. he did not suggest abortion to be the answer.
meanwhile, often, the fathers run free without consequences, often leaving multiples of children with multiples of mothers in their wake - at taxpayer expense. all of this, at taxpayer expense.
certainly, sad things happen, horrific things happen.
but, humans are not good at figuring out which of God’s plans can be altered nor how.
how is it decided what is really helping the poor, and what is hurting?
‘cause, from what i experience and witness, human stats are grossly limited, never full.
not even close.
aside from the Christian perspective of abstaining, there was a very practical reality poor people accepted. “old enough to play, old enough to pay.”
a simple reality like this, that even a child can grasp, universally true, like learning not to touch that hot stove, personal accountability is important. when you want something a lot - you work to earn it.
in the case of sexual intimacy, which is very much wanted by most people, rich or poor, “earning” it involves money, and more than money. it involves time/years to mature, finding a marriage partner, personal commitment to the marriage. it involves being more than an animal, a slave of instincts.
no doubt, some abortion horror stories happened, and would happen.
quite frankly, they have not stopped happening. most i read about these days are of (privileged) girls who can’t face parents - possibly more because our present ed system teaches them mom+dad can’t be trusted, no need to risk it! - no communication there to establish trust. but, how often do young ones learn, wow, their parents love them, anyway?!
systematically removing parents from the equation because some parents fail is an awful mistake. good intentions. bleat.
i’m not sure i’ve ever heard of any more slimy/repugnant thing in my life than DIY abortion pills.
to imagine young girls subjecting themselves to that. it’s painful.
yet, the big thing now is to supply college campuses with these poison pills, no questions asked.
how low can society go?
without exception, all these things begin with THE BEST INTENTIONS.
humans aren’t sufficient for figuring things out. we fall short. children are hurt, children die.
politicians are elected; corporations profit. yep. yes they do.
God loves poor people. He isn’t out to harm them/us. He offers Hope.
humans interfere. human interference should be the scary terrifying part.