Meanwhile, in Canada

[temporal1]

“TD Bank Freezes Bank Accounts Connected to ‘Freedom Convoy’ Protest”
https://www.theepochtimes.com/td-bank-f ... 75069.html

“Trudeau gives banks power to freeze funds without court order in bid to choke off protest funding”
“New powers give institutions the ability to freeze corporate accounts and cancel insurance tied to trucks that are being used in the blockades”
https://financialpost.com/fp-finance/ba ... st-funding

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking- ... protesters

Four premiers have stated their discontent with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's reported decision to invoke the Emergencies Act.

Premier Scott Moe, along with Jason Kenney, and Francois Legault voiced their displeasure with the move, with Moe tweeting: "The illegal blockades must end, but police already have sufficient tools to enforce the law and clear the blockades, as they did over the weekend in Windsor."
"Therefore, Saskatchewan does not support the Trudeau government invoking the Emergencies Act. If the federal government does proceed with this measure, I would hope it would only be invoked in provinces that request it, as the legislation allows."

Premier Kenney called the gesture "unhelpful, stating at a press conference on Monday: "At this point for the federal government to reach in over top of us without offering anything, in particular, would frankly be unhelpful."
"We do not wish to have a state of emergency in Quebec. It's not necessary and it's time to bring together not divide," Legault said.
Manitoba Premier Heather Stefanson said in a statement released on Monday: "I am not currently satisfied the Emergencies Act should be applied in Manitoba. Winnipeg’s situation is dramatically different from the one in Ottawa. The Emerson border situation is very different than the one faced in Windsor."
According to the CBC, Trudeau told his caucus last night that the measures would be put into place to handle protestors across Canada, though there are no plans to send in the military.

You would think it would just be easier to sit down and negotiate with the truckers.
They do not seem to be unreasonable.

More effort is made in communicating with N Korea, China, Saudi Arabia, Russia, et al.
These are law-abiding, tax-paying legal citizens, unarmed, approaching in numbers: in peace.

[temporal1]

“Facts Matter (Feb. 11): Six Provinces Lift Mandates After Protests Continue; Secret Phone Recording of Ontario Premier”
https://www.ntd.com/facts-matter-feb-11 ... 39263.html
The first 11 min are on the convoy ^^^ then he reports on the Olympics.


https://www.theepochtimes.com/facts-mat ... 72718.html

https://www.youmaker.com/video/e4fa6613 ... f865b31333

[Valerie]

Sudsy,

Could one also live in perfect peace in the USSR or
Nazi Germany? I agree we mustn’t get derailed by politics and dragged into earthly concerns; but the reality is a regime like the USSR or the modern globalist-capitalist Empire sets itself against God, the gospel, and evangelism.

Scripture says we can but there are conditions. The scripture I shared before Isaiah 26:3 -

You will keep him in perfect peace,
Whose mind is stayed on You,
Because he trusts in You.

It is a matter of trust in God.

Another verse I often refer to as I try to keep reminding myself - Phlippians 4:8-9

Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.

The key is to control what we think about and that is our part. I believe this is a moment-by-moment challenge, especially today with all the worldly sources attacking our minds. But no matter what the earthly challenge is to rob us of our peace, God says we can have peace that goes beyond human understanding. So, I chose to believe what these scriptures are saying.

This is true Sudsy, yet people need to assess the present situation for what it is.

For example Jesus talks about the time of the Great tribulation in Matthew 24:15- therefore when you see the abomination of desolation spoken by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place whoever reads let him understand then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes but woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days. And pray that your flight may not be in Winter or on the Sabbath-

Apostle Paul says in 1 Corinthians 7:25,26: "now concerning virgins I have one commandment from the lord, yet I give judgment as one whom the Lord and his Mercy has made trustworthy. I suppose therefore that this is good because of the present distress-that it is good for a man to remain as he is"

Jesus & Apostle Paul are speaking of times of troubles & advising actions- i dont think either is dismissing recognition of distressful situations -

The reason there are Anabaptists in various parts other than where they originated in they're native countries was because of the spiritual and political distress that cause them to flee. Do you think they should have stayed and dealt with it as your suggesting here- indeed many did lose their lives, are you saying they should have stayed and just kept the Peace in the situation or did they have to assess the situation and take action?

[Josh]

“Facts Matter (Feb. 11): Six Provinces Lift Mandates After Protests Continue; Secret Phone Recording of Ontario Premier”
https://www.ntd.com/facts-matter-feb-11 ... 39263.html
The first 11 min are on the convoy ^^^ then he reports on the Olympics.


https://www.theepochtimes.com/facts-mat ... 72718.html

https://www.youmaker.com/video/e4fa6613 ... f865b31333

It seems that if the protests hadn't happened, the lockdowns and mandates would have just continued on.

[Sudsy]

Sudsy,

Could one also live in perfect peace in the USSR or
Nazi Germany? I agree we mustn’t get derailed by politics and dragged into earthly concerns; but the reality is a regime like the USSR or the modern globalist-capitalist Empire sets itself against God, the gospel, and evangelism.

Scripture says we can but there are conditions. The scripture I shared before Isaiah 26:3 -

You will keep him in perfect peace,
Whose mind is stayed on You,
Because he trusts in You.

It is a matter of trust in God.

Another verse I often refer to as I try to keep reminding myself - Phlippians 4:8-9

Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.

The key is to control what we think about and that is our part. I believe this is a moment-by-moment challenge, especially today with all the worldly sources attacking our minds. But no matter what the earthly challenge is to rob us of our peace, God says we can have peace that goes beyond human understanding. So, I chose to believe what these scriptures are saying.

This is true Sudsy, yet people need to assess the present situation for what it is.

For example Jesus talks about the time of the Great tribulation in Matthew 24:15- therefore when you see the abomination of desolation spoken by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place whoever reads let him understand then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes but woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days. And pray that your flight may not be in Winter or on the Sabbath-

Apostle Paul says in 1 Corinthians 7:25,26: "now concerning virgins I have one commandment from the lord, yet I give judgment as one whom the Lord and his Mercy has made trustworthy. I suppose therefore that this is good because of the present distress-that it is good for a man to remain as he is"

Jesus & Apostle Paul are speaking of times of troubles & advising actions- i dont think either is dismissing recognition of distressful situations -

The reason there are Anabaptists in various parts other than where they originated in they're native countries was because of the spiritual and political distress that cause them to flee. Do you think they should have stayed and dealt with it as your suggesting here- indeed many did lose their lives, are you saying they should have stayed and just kept the Peace in the situation or did they have to assess the situation and take action?

Regarding your question - my thought here has to do with us being able to live in 'perfect peace' in any situation. Whatever actions a Christian believes the Holy Spirit wants them to take (i.e. to flee or stay) I believe God will give us this 'perfect peace' through that situation. That is why, I believe, it is called a 'peace that passes all understanding'. It is supernatural peace not the peace the world strives to get.

Here is something that the late Lester Bauman once wrote - https://anabaptistworld.org/facing-death-with-laughter/

My understanding, as Lester points out, is that some Anabaptists stayed and experienced a peace and joy in their death that is beyond understanding other than to say God gave it to them. Others took the action to flee from their persecutors and came to America to be known as the 'quiet in the land'. In both cases they never went to battle with the worldly governments and to some extent Anabaptist belief was spread in the world.

I understand from a human experience why some withdrew from the world into more isolated communities. However, it is quite obvious that this has not allowed for much Anabaptist belief to spread outside of raising big families. There is some spread but not anywhere close to that of other Christian groups who went more into all the world. There certainly is a 'peace' through isolation but the peace God gives is one that exists through persecution. Anabaptism is not strong in evangelizing those outside their ethnicity. Imo, this is a big issue and one that does not show much active engagement to reach the lost. I see this all the time in our area that has many separate groups of Mennonites. The ones most engaged with the world are into good deeds but these often speak little of the Gospel message and are quite worldly in other ways. Souls are not being saved that is visible.

As far as the need to 'assess the present situation for what it is' what I read seems to lead to Christians not living in that 'peace that passes understanding'. When circumstances in the world are not peaceful to the world, they often become unpeaceful to us believers. This need not be the case. Scripture says don't be anxious about anything. I believe 'anything' is literally 'anything'. The greatest source today of our anxiousness is through the many ways we have of accessing what the world is trying to do to get peace. Jesus says His peace is not like that of the world. When we put our complete trust in Him, what goes on in this world will not rattle us. Our mission and our relationship with God the world can only interfere with, if we let it.

In my experience, living in this 'peace of God' is a moment-by-moment choice. I know, for me, I can't give myself much access to what the world is up to with it's wars, diseases and all kinds of fears. As scripture says this perfect peace is up to me to keep my mind focused on God, my mission, who I really am in Christ and depending on the Holy Spirit to guide and empower me. I understand spiritual growth to be having more of these moments in a progressing walk with the Lord. I can stop that walk, back up and sometimes trip over various things or I can, with the Holy Spirit's help, determine to live in the abundant life Jesus promised me.

I appreciate you challenging my previous post and any further thoughts you have, especially in how we involve ourselves in worldly matters. I realize my current understandings are not shared by others and these understandings for me are a work-in-process. I appreciate also you referring to a couple scriptural texts and have perhaps a different view on how these should be applied today. But I'll stop here for now.

[temporal1]

“Facts Matter (Feb. 11): Six Provinces Lift Mandates After Protests Continue; Secret Phone Recording of Ontario Premier”
https://www.ntd.com/facts-matter-feb-11 ... 39263.html
The first 11 min are on the convoy ^^^ then he reports on the Olympics.


https://www.theepochtimes.com/facts-mat ... 72718.html

https://www.youmaker.com/video/e4fa6613 ... f865b31333

It seems that if the protests hadn't happened, the lockdowns and mandates would have just continued on.

i wonder what the tipping point is for profoundly halting everyday life, then actually returning to the former status? -
Maybe the original claim, “2 weeks?” .. A culture MIGHT withstand a couple of weeks. There must be a tipping point.
After 2 years, changes/losses are so widespread, so deep, there is no going back.

Children adapt, knowing nothing else. “It was always this way.”
As boys, my uncles enjoyed a LOT of personal freedom, today, children are confined and tracked.
Today, childhood obesity. ADD-ADHD, etc.

Life goes on. Not back.
WWI profoundly changed everyday life+culture; WWII moved women into workplaces away from their homes+families.

“Temporary” changes become the new normal.
There are winners+losers in the economy, from shoe-shine boys to large corporations.

[RZehr]

Trudeau has to be one of the most blatantly dishonest, duplicitous, hypocritical, (and all the other synonyms for deceitful) political leader in recent times. He’s right up there with Trump and Putin.

[temporal1]

Trudeau has to be one of the most blatantly dishonest, duplicitous, hypocritical, (and all the other synonyms for deceitful) political leader in recent times. He’s right up there with Trump and Putin.

i can’t land here. About DJT. i don’t venture to guess about Putin.*
There is no honest way of knowing what DJT is about, because, 1) he NEVER experienced media cover up of sins, as was formerly routine for all presidents; 2) he CONSTANTLY receives criticism, exaggerated criticism, out-of context criticism, and more, from those same entities.

Add to that, the remarkable positives of his policies, not the least of which was restrained military involvement, i can’t land in that place of deciding any of the above about him. Yes, he’s noisy. He’s a “type-cast” New Yorker. (After viewing the video on his Scottish ancestry, i thought i could see a cultural/DNA connection, deeper than NYC). New Yorkers are different people, not my fav. But i don’t hate them, either.



Here’s a RECENT example of how his words are twisted out of proportion:

“Donald Trump is calling for the death penalty as John Durham shockingly charges no one with anything”

While I have no desire to defend President Trump, he said they "used to use the death penalty" for things like this.
That is not "calling" for the death penalty.

This headline is disingenuous.

DJT is not president! i wonder, if he happened to pass away, how much longer would the media INSIST on continuing?
i do not believe his death would make a difference. “Hating Trump” has become a way of life, a profitable industry.

i thought his SOTU speeches were very good. he had other good speeches/announcements. IGNORED. if not disparaged.

he did not, does not receive anywhere-near fair treatment. so, no. i don’t believe the public has any hope of knowing.

one thing we can be certain of: the press is supremely able to ignore whatever they choose.
they absolutely do NOT ignore DJT. that’s a clue right there. more than enough to warrant suspicion of foul play.

Putin.
The only thing i REALLY know about Putin is he is hated by the o-so-powerful homosexual bloc, so, “no limits” to hate thrown his way. Whether openly stated or not, sabotage for any reason is a factor they consider fine+dandy.

Before operating, it’s important to try to identify underlying cancers.

i would readily apply your above descriptors to the homosexual bloc, and, i think most organized political blocs go in those directions. they all begin with some attractive premise. then, they deteriorate.

[temporal1]

Trudeau basically has a civilized population that compares with California. Most of their population lives near their southern border.
i remind myself, because the land mass of Canada is large. Interesting to think.

[temporal1]

”Convoy protests: Protest organizers Tamara Lich, Chris Barber arrested in Ottawa”
Ottawa police began arresting protesters Thursday afternoon after warning of a crackdown. Follow the Star’s live coverage.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/202 ... ttawa.html

i have not read all of this, it includes live updates, and links to other related reports.
i rarely see reports from this source, so, no overall opinion.

odd that BEN DICHTER hasn’t been arrested. i think in some video, he was asking to be arrested with them.
if so, it seems puzzling to them, too.

when remembering Seattle 2020, DJT was roundly criticized for offering (National Guard) aid to burning cities,
since he’s out of office, police-military action seems fine+dandy, no (feigned) horrified shock at the thought of it!



i continue to view Canada with interest, hoping for peaceful resolution. very much so.
i mostly view on this forum, to avoid seeing sensationalized attacks on either side. nobody needs that.