Vaccine Mandates a Slippery Slope towards the Surveillance State and Mark of the Beast

[Falco Underhill]

Lots of concrete statements here; some of them seem awfully speculative, though I'd be interested in seeing data behind their probable implementation...

There's a ton of data available, a whole lot in that video by Christian Westbrook. If you have any specific questions I'll try to answer them if I can, but the topic is far too large for a short post.

They are trying to implement this agenda right now all over the world.

Biden has signed us back on to the Paris Agreement. He has also signed an executive order to ban all gas-powered engines by 2035. "Amtrac Joe" has already invested billions into Amtrac to connect the planned smart cities and to push everyone out of cars and onto trains.

(Amtrac is owned and operated by the federal government. It's board of directors are appointed by the president, so this is essentially a nationalization of transportation.)

I'm curious how you propose Big Brother will provide sufficient electricity for the non-emissions heat sources, and how that electricity will be regulated/disbursed. And do you anticipate reception of such a resource being based on social scoring?

They probably haven't quite worked that out yet, but do you suppose that will stop them? They do plan to materially reduce the amount of heat that anyone can use though.

Any business will need to protect their "social license to operate." Any "unclean" (carbon emitting) businesses will be out.

Livestock emit methane gas into the atmosphere when they fart and belch, so that's definitely out. Gas companies, forget it!

[Szdfan]

"Amtrac Joe" has already invested billions into Amtrac to connect the planned smart cities and to push everyone out of cars and onto trains.

(Amtrac is owned and operated by the federal government. It's board of directors are appointed by the president, so this is essentially a nationalization of transportation.)

First of all, it’s Amtrak.

Secondly, Amtrak was formed in 1971 in order to take over passenger train service because the railroads no longer want to provide those services. Nationalization of passenger service happened because the railroads wanted it to. Amtrak has been massively underfunded for decades and often has service issues because it doesn’t own most of the track it operates (the exception is the Northeast Corridor) and the host railroads’ freight trains take priority over Amtrak. Due to this dynamic, Amtrak trains are frequently behind schedule.

Despite the drawbacks to Amtrak, it still provides a vital transportation link for the communities it serves. I live near the route of the Southwest Chief and the local communities have had to frequently fight to maintain funding, including a proposal a few years ago to replace the Southwest Chief with busses.

Compared to other industrialized nations like Japan and Western Europe, Amtrak is a joke. The Japanese Shinkansen bullet trains run between 150 and 200 mph. The German ICE runs up to 180 mph. The French TGV up to 200 mph. The Eurostar will run up to 186 mph between London and Paris. The Chinese are developing a national high speed system with speeds between 190-220 mph.

The average speed for Amtrak’s Acela between Washington, DC and New York is 86 mph. It’s 66 mph between New York and Boston.

America’s current, aging infrastructure is insufficient for current needs. I hate driving and flying is becoming an increasingly terrible experience as airlines stuff more and more people into an airplane. High Speed corridors that connect cities makes a lot of sense, especially if it helps take pressure off of highways and airports, but while Amtrak funding under Biden has improved, it’s nowhere near the amount needed to develop these lines.

When I lived in Germany, we didn’t have a car and got around with public transit and trains. I eagerly await our new public transit overlords.

[Ken]

"Amtrac Joe" has already invested billions into Amtrac to connect the planned smart cities and to push everyone out of cars and onto trains.

(Amtrac is owned and operated by the federal government. It's board of directors are appointed by the president, so this is essentially a nationalization of transportation.)

First of all, it’s Amtrak.

Secondly, Amtrak was formed in 1971 in order to take over passenger train service because the railroads no longer want to provide those services. Nationalization of passenger service happened because the railroads wanted it to. Amtrak has been massively underfunded for decades and often has service issues because it doesn’t own most of the track it operates (the exception is the Northeast Corridor) and the host railroads’ freight trains take priority over Amtrak. Due to this dynamic, Amtrak trains are frequently behind schedule.

Despite the drawbacks to Amtrak, it still provides a vital transportation link for the communities it serves. I live near the route of the Southwest Chief and the local communities have had to frequently fight to maintain funding, including a proposal a few years ago to replace the Southwest Chief with busses.

Compared to other industrialized nations like Japan and Western Europe, Amtrak is a joke. The Japanese Shinkansen bullet trains run between 150 and 200 mph. The German ICE runs up to 180 mph. The French TGV up to 200 mph. The Eurostar will run up to 186 mph between London and Paris. The Chinese are developing a national high speed system with speeds between 190-220 mph.

The average speed for Amtrak’s Acela between Washington, DC and New York is 86 mph. It’s 66 mph between New York and Boston.

America’s current, aging infrastructure is insufficient for current needs. I hate driving and flying is becoming an increasingly terrible experience as airlines stuff more and more people into an airplane. High Speed corridors that connect cities makes a lot of sense, especially if it helps take pressure off of highways and airports, but while Amtrak funding under Biden has improved, it’s nowhere near the amount needed to develop these lines.

When I lived in Germany, we didn’t have a car and got around with public transit and trains. I eagerly await our new public transit overlords.

My daughter takes the Amtrak Cascades back and forth from Vancouver to college in Seattle and loves it. Not high speed but it is still faster than driving if you get any sort of congestion on I-5 through Tacoma and the Seattle metro which you usually do. The train has WiFi and she likes kicking back and doing homework or reading while the train whisks her up along the shoreline to Seattle. Fare is $26 each way which is less than the gas would cost. And it means she doesn’t need to hassle with keeping a car in the big city.

Szdfan is right. When the railroads were built across this country they received absolutely MASSIVE public subsidies in the form of financing and land. The railroad land grants in the west were absolutely massive. The quid pro quo for this PUBLIC investment in private railroads was that they would continue to provide passenger service on all their routes that the public had subsidized. By the 1970s with the advent of air travel the railroads all wanted out of that deal they had agreed to and hence Amtrak was born. It was the railroads that wanted it to get them off the hook but they have never really kept to the deal as today freight travel gets prioritized over passenger all across the system. And, unfortunately, Congress meddles and insists on maintaining all the legacy cross country routes to serve rural areas rather than focusing on developing modern medium-distance higher speed corridors as they should be doing.

[ohio jones]

Amtrak and other passenger rail combined account for less than 0.3% of all passenger-miles traveled in the US. That's down from 1.6% in 1960, when rail travel was already on the decline. Amtrak could absorb about 4x the proposed increase in funding and barely address their deferred maintenance and worn-out equipment issues, let alone any significant service expansions.

Of all the things to be concerned about in the global zero carbon agenda, this ain't it.

[Falco Underhill]

Amtrak and other passenger rail combined account for less than 0.3% of all passenger-miles traveled in the US. That's down from 1.6% in 1960, when rail travel was already on the decline. Amtrak could absorb about 4x the proposed increase in funding and barely address their deferred maintenance and worn-out equipment issues, let alone any significant service expansions.

Of all the things to be concerned about in the global zero carbon agenda, this ain't it.

All good points but my critique is based on the stated goals to make rail travel (which I would enjoy myself, by the way ) the main mode of travel by 2050 making cars virtually non-existent. This effort to revitalize Amtrak now is in pursuit of this ultimate goal, or at least I think so, anyway.

[ohio jones]

Long term, that may well be something "they" desire. By 2050?

[Falco Underhill]

Long term, that may well be something "they" desire. By 2050?

Well, in their own words, the speed at which these changes are expected to occur "may cause vertigo."

According to UK plans: 2020 - 2030 is called the "Decade of Action." The development of petrol/diesel engines is to end by 2029. Any new vehicles introduced from now on must be compatible with Absolute Zero (carbon emissions).

Also included in this decade is the "growth of domestic and international rail as a substitute for flights and low occupancy car travel."

Here is the schedule:

From 2030 - 2049 all new vehicles to be electric, average size of cars reduces to ~1000kg.

This decade will also see the "further growth with expanded network and all electric trains; rail also becomes dominant mode for freight as shipping declines."

By 2050 road use is to be cut to 60 percent of 2020 levels "through reducing distance traveled or reducing vehicle weight."

These stated goals can be found here:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... XI9d2gRUuM

To reduce distance traveled, Pete Buttigieg (Biden's transportation secretary) has already suggested a tax on miles traveled for "infrastructure projects."

https://www.wlbt.com/2021/03/26/pete-bu ... ture-bill/

Canadian Pacific is set to build an international railway from Canada to the US to South America to do away with flights. (I'm pretty sure CP is funded by the Canadian government, but the U.S. may be chipping in for this project, too)

www.nytimes.com/2021/03/21/business/rai ... EAeCiJz04J

However, don't be misled by talk of tiny little Electric Vehicles being allowed on the roads. EV's are also destined to be phased out because they release small emissions and building them has detrimental effects on the environment.

By 2050 - "Absolute Zero".

That's their stated goal. You're right, though — whether they meet these goals is another matter.

The US has signed on. Biden has committed to no gas-powered engines by 2035 and is starting to fund the railroads.

— https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden- ... 021-12-08/

Biden Wants You Out of Your Car and on the Train
The president's $2 trillion infrastructure proposal boosts funding for buses and rail. It even envisions actually tearing down some freeways.

https://www.wired.com/story/biden-wants ... -on-train/

To check out where all the various countries are in the phase-out of fossil fuel vehicles just have a look at this Wikipedia article -

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-o ... 0by%202035.

[Ken]

Long term, that may well be something "they" desire. By 2050?

Well, in their own words, the speed at which these changes are expected to occur "may cause vertigo."

According to UK plans: 2020 - 2030 is called the "Decade of Action." The development of petrol/diesel engines is to end by 2029. Any new vehicles introduced from now on must be compatible with Absolute Zero (carbon emissions).

Also included in this decade is the "growth of domestic and international rail as a substitute for flights and low occupancy car travel."

Here is the schedule:

From 2030 - 2049 all new vehicles to be electric, average size of cars reduces to ~1000kg.

This decade will also see the "further growth with expanded network and all electric trains; rail also becomes dominant mode for freight as shipping declines."

By 2050 road use is to be cut to 60 percent of 2020 levels "through reducing distance traveled or reducing vehicle weight."

These stated goals can be found here:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... XI9d2gRUuM

Who is this mysterious “they” you are so fearful of?

I followed the link to stated goals above and it is just a document written 3 years ago by some UK university professors. Not anyone who has the slightest ability to affect any policy change in the UK much less the US.

[Falco Underhill]

Who is this mysterious “they” you are so fearful of?

I followed the link to stated goals above and it is just a document written 3 years ago by some UK university professors. Not anyone who has the slightest ability to affect any policy change in the UK much less the US.

These university professors become "advisors" to heads of state. Heads of state implement policies.

"They" whom I'm apparently so "fearful of" is a reference to the jokers at the WEF and a few other NGO's i can't quite think of at the moment.

I'm shaking in my boots!

[Falco Underhill]

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