Yes, that's what I was trying to say.Josh wrote:I do not see how anything Bootstrap said is "inciting violence". Here is what he said:
Bootstrap said if someone feels like punching someone in the face, NOT to post to this forum, and to think about being quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry.Bootstrap wrote:Request: Before posting in this thread, could everyone ask themselves if they are feeling like they would like to punch someone else in the face, and not hit submit if the answer is "yes"?
Wisdom moves slowly, and not in anger. Wisdom is quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry.
That seems like the opposite of inciting violence to me.
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Bootstrap
Re: arguments.
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Josh
Re: arguments.
MaxPC wrote:Josh, to be clear so that you do not twist my words: I'm calling for you to cease your unkind insults, sniping at others and to behave more like a kind, charitable Christian. If you can't do this on your own then you need to seek help for learning in how to be kind to others.
At this point, I feel like if I challenge MaxPC in any way, I get a response that I am:MaxPC wrote:Find a good spiritual mentor who can explain to you when you're on a sniping jag and find better ways to speak in a kind manner. Until you learn to speak to others with more kindness and grace I will block your posts. Moderators notified.
1. Not a kind, charitable Christian
2. That I need to seek help on how to be kind to others.
3. That I do not have a good spiritual mentor and that I need to find one
4. Threats of "Moderators notified" when I do challenge what MaxPC says
5. Telling me I am blocked multiple times, yet somehow able to continue to read and respond to my posts
I don't think it's a good thing to attack each other's spiritual authorities and spiritual mentors in each others' lives, or to assume that they don't exist.
This is not the first time I have had MaxPC tell me I am emotionally unstable, that I need some kind of counselling, or that I am overall a spiritually sick, spiritually unhealthy, unsubmissive person. I don't think any of us should be talking to each other this way on MN. I think that if we do feel that way about another person on MN, it would be appropriate to start in a private message first.
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MaxPC
Re: arguments.
You would do well to follow that interpretation if that's what he meant. BS added that last paragraph after I pointed out how his post seems to incite violence. BS needs to answer for himself, not you answer for him; just as you need to answer for yourself in the face of your insults of others. No one but you can change that behavior.Josh wrote:I do not see how anything Bootstrap said is "inciting violence". Here is what he said:MaxPC wrote:Are you trying to encourage an altercation BS? Your statement not only interferes with others discussions but it incites violence.Bootstrap wrote:Request: Before posting in this thread, could everyone ask themselves if they are feeling like they would like to punch someone else in the face, and not hit submit if the answer is "yes"?
Bootstrap said if someone feels like punching someone in the face, NOT to post to this forum, and to think about being quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry.Request: Before posting in this thread, could everyone ask themselves if they are feeling like they would like to punch someone else in the face, and not hit submit if the answer is "yes"?
Wisdom moves slowly, and not in anger. Wisdom is quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry.
That seems like the opposite of inciting violence to me.
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Bootstrap
Re: arguments.
Max, I can't see any way to interpret the first part of my post as a way to incite violence. Here it is again:MaxPC wrote:You would do well to follow that interpretation if that's what he meant. BS added that last paragraph after I pointed out how his post seems to incite violence. BS needs to answer for himself, not you answer for him; just as you need to answer for yourself in the face of your insults of others. No one but you can change that behavior.
I'm guessing you were just too worked up to read carefully. And that's a pretty good sign that this is not the time for us to listen to each other in a way that allows each of us to examine ourselves.Bootstrap wrote:Request: Before posting in this thread, could everyone ask themselves if they are feeling like they would like to punch someone else in the face, and not hit submit if the answer is "yes"?
As it happens, I had not seen your response when I added the second paragraph, but I'm a little surprised that the first paragraph wasn't clear enough without it. I added the second paragraph for emphasis, then saw your post.
Max, I think you and Josh were both reacting to each other, and would do well to cool off before continuing here. I think there's enough sin in this thread already, we don't have to continue that.
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All of YOU stop and grow up.
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Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.
I think I am funnier than I really am.
I think I am funnier than I really am.
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temporal1
Re: briar patch
the briar patch: a good place for this entire thread -
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=301
i must stop wasting my time.
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i must stop wasting my time.
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Sunbeam
Re: briar patch
Here I come strolling in with a comment, where an angel with any sort of sixth sense would no doubt fear to tread:
I have not read the threads to the back story here, but I have one observation.
Everyone involved is telling other persons involved how they should behave. The only person whose behavior and attitude you can control is your own. When your heart and actions are at peace with God and truth, another person's will very seldom undermine your mental and emotional tranquility, nor will you feel the inclination to attempt to legislate theirs.
I have not read the threads to the back story here, but I have one observation.
Everyone involved is telling other persons involved how they should behave. The only person whose behavior and attitude you can control is your own. When your heart and actions are at peace with God and truth, another person's will very seldom undermine your mental and emotional tranquility, nor will you feel the inclination to attempt to legislate theirs.
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silentreader
Re: briar patch
There was a much needed ray of sunshine!Sunbeam wrote:Here I come strolling in with a comment, where an angel with any sort of sixth sense would no doubt fear to tread:
I have not read the threads to the back story here, but I have one observation.
Everyone involved is telling other persons involved how they should behave. The only person whose behavior and attitude you can control is your own. When your heart and actions are at peace with God and truth, another person's will very seldom undermine your mental and emotional tranquility, nor will you feel the inclination to attempt to legislate theirs.
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KingdomBuilder
Re: briar patch
A real sunbeam, I'd saysilentreader wrote:There was a much needed ray of sunshine!Sunbeam wrote:Here I come strolling in with a comment, where an angel with any sort of sixth sense would no doubt fear to tread:
I have not read the threads to the back story here, but I have one observation.
Everyone involved is telling other persons involved how they should behave. The only person whose behavior and attitude you can control is your own. When your heart and actions are at peace with God and truth, another person's will very seldom undermine your mental and emotional tranquility, nor will you feel the inclination to attempt to legislate theirs.
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silentreader
Re: briar patch
Well, I'm not sure if she was beaming....KingdomBuilder wrote:A real sunbeam, I'd saysilentreader wrote:There was a much needed ray of sunshine!Sunbeam wrote:Here I come strolling in with a comment, where an angel with any sort of sixth sense would no doubt fear to tread:
I have not read the threads to the back story here, but I have one observation.
Everyone involved is telling other persons involved how they should behave. The only person whose behavior and attitude you can control is your own. When your heart and actions are at peace with God and truth, another person's will very seldom undermine your mental and emotional tranquility, nor will you feel the inclination to attempt to legislate theirs.
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