Phrases and words Christians use not in the bible

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cmbl

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Personal devotions.
New Birth Experience. Salvation Experience.
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Sudsy

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"hate the sin but love the sinner"

"closed communion"

"deaconess"

"mortal sin"

"venial sin"

"purgatory"

"total depravity"
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JimFoxvog

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Sudsy wrote: "deaconess"
It's in the footnotes as a possible translation of διάκονον which is reasonable as that's how it is translated in other verses.

[bible]Rom 16,1[/bible]

Just calling Phoebe a deacon would probably be a better translation to today's English. Words change meaning and mean different things in different contexts.
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Visible Church and Invisible Church

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Outsider

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Bootstrap wrote:Legalism. I think the concept is biblical, but the word is not in the Bible.

I think the way people use the word today is mostly not biblical. The only way I see what could be called "legalism" talked about is mostly Paul preaching against imposing the whole of Judaic law on gentiles (circumcision, sabbaths, and other things which go beyond what the council of Jerusalem held to be necessary for gentiles). Mostly, the way it is used now is to get around direct commandments by God through the apostles (women as elders and teachers over men, head-coverings- on for men and off for women- divorce, abortion, gay relationships). Or as the (mistaken) view taken by Quakers and others that the written scripture is the "letter of the law"- a notion which has led to the General Meeting becoming a universalist group in all but name.
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Bootstrap

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Outsider wrote:
Bootstrap wrote:Legalism. I think the concept is biblical, but the word is not in the Bible.
I think the way people use the word today is mostly not biblical. The only way I see what could be called "legalism" talked about is mostly Paul preaching against imposing the whole of Judaic law on gentiles (circumcision, sabbaths, and other things which go beyond what the council of Jerusalem held to be necessary for gentiles). Mostly, the way it is used now is to get around direct commandments by God through the apostles (women as elders and teachers over men, head-coverings- on for men and off for women- divorce, abortion, gay relationships). Or as the (mistaken) view taken by Quakers and others that the written scripture is the "letter of the law"- a notion which has led to the General Meeting becoming a universalist group in all but name.
I think there's more to it than that. Have you seen this thread? It would be interesting to add your thoughts there.

http://forum.mennonet.com/viewtopic.php ... 229#p23229
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Sudsy

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"rhema"
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Bootstrap

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Sudsy wrote:"rhema"
Well, the word is clearly in the Bible. It doesn't mean what some people seem to think ...
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Sudsy

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Bootstrap wrote:
Sudsy wrote:"rhema"
Well, the word is clearly in the Bible. It doesn't mean what some people seem to think ...
What translation are you finding this word in as I couldn't locate it. Text please ?

I only find the word 'word' used and not 'rhema'.
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Bootstrap

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Sudsy wrote:
Bootstrap wrote:
Sudsy wrote:"rhema"
Well, the word is clearly in the Bible. It doesn't mean what some people seem to think ...
What translation are you finding this word in as I couldn't locate it. Text please ?
It's a Greek word. Mounce's concordance clearly shows you where it occurs. For instance:
Matthew 4:4 But he replied, “Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word (rhēmati | ῥήματι | dat sg neut) that comes from the mouth of God.”
Matthew 12:36 But I say to you that on the day of judgment, people will give an account for every careless word (rhēma | ῥῆμα | acc sg neut) they speak.
Matthew 18:16 But if he does not listen, take one or two others with you so that every matter (rhēma | ῥῆμα | nom sg neut) may be confirmed on the evidence of two or three witnesses.
Matthew 26:75 Then Peter remembered what (rhēmatos | ῥήματος | gen sg neut) Jesus had said, “Before the rooster crows, you will deny me three times.” And he went outside and wept bitterly.
Translations render this word in a variety of ways.
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