This is that thread. Here is Robert's response to what I said.Bootstrap wrote:[I don't think so, but an apples-to-apples comparison probably belongs in another thread, because this one is about our response as Christians.Robert wrote:Bush and Obama put similar travel restrictions during their time in office. Jimmy Carter did the same.
And some of the refugees are coming here precisely because their homes are no longer safe due to US policies.Robert wrote:You think wrong my friend. The US has always had restrictions on immigration and refugees since at least WW2. Maybe before. FDR even imprisoned Japanese Americans during the war. Now that was something to protest about.Bootstrap wrote:I don't think so
All 109 who were detained have been allowed to enter now. 109 out of 325,000.
Millions still in turmoil because of the US policies in the Middle East.
Here is a comparison between Obama's action and Trump's.
To me, at least, these are extremely significant differences.First, Obama responded to an actual threat — the discovery that two Iraqi refugees had been implicated in bombmaking in Iraq that had targeted U.S. troops. (Iraq, after all, was a war zone.) Under congressional pressure, officials decided to reexamine all previous refugees and impose new screening procedures, which led to a slowdown in processing new applications. Trump, by contrast, issued his executive order without any known triggering threat. (His staff has pointed to attacks unrelated to the countries named in his order.)
Second, Obama did not announce a ban on visa applications. In fact, as seen in Napolitano’s answer to Collins, administration officials danced around that question. There was certainly a lot of news reporting that visa applications had slowed to a trickle. But the Obama administration never said it had a policy to halt all applications. Indeed, it is now clear that no ban was put in place. Even so, the delays did not go unnoticed, so there was a lot of critical news reporting at the time about the angst of Iraqis waiting for approval.
Third, Obama’s policy did not prevent all citizens of that country, including green-card holders, from traveling to the United States. Trump’s policy is much more sweeping, though officials have appeared to pull back from barring permanent U.S. residents.