Gender confusion

[Valerie]

Meanwhile in Munich, while Hillary trashes President Trump another world leader defends him and has to point out to her, that there are only TWO genders:

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/422478

[joshuabgood]

I used to hear people say the school shootings are nearly all angry white kids who are gun nuts who also hate their parents.

[barnhart]

I used to hear people say the school shootings are nearly all angry white kids who are gun nuts who also hate their parents.

I imagine there is exceedingly strong data to back this assertion but it serves as a good example of the weaknesses of data to solve the human condition or how easily data can be put to service to support ideology.

[Valerie]

I used to hear people say the school shootings are nearly all angry white kids who are gun nuts who also hate their parents.

The most claims that I’ve heard is that they were bullied or misfits/liners.

I suppose they could try to blame that on their parents.

[Silentreader]

This small minority seems to be wildly disproportionately involved in mass shootings. Think Memphis.

This trend may be something to keep an eye on but statistics can also be easily manipulated in service of deeper motivations. For example people of Scandinavian descent seem to account for all school shootings in British Columbia, but I don't think that is very meaningful.

Might be good to remember that the 50% touted on this forum appears to be based on 1 out 2.

[Soloist]

Some of my concern with this sort of line of discussion is it’s awfully close to the same sort of mentality of all the shooters are autistic and while I agree that there is a mental health component with transgender, I think it’s very poor tack to label trans as violent dangerous people when those sort of accusations have been used against autistics and other groups.

Statistically the only group we can single out for school shooting is the young white male.
Naturally, someone would argue that the population is so much smaller among the transgender’s that the results are disparate, but that ignores the fact that statistics with small amounts can easily be skewed by outliers. Statistics can be twisted to say virtually anything you want if you have an agenda.

[Valerie]

Some of my concern with this sort of line of discussion is it’s awfully close to the same sort of mentality of all the shooters are autistic and while I agree that there is a mental health component with transgender, I think it’s very poor tack to label trans as violent dangerous people when those sort of accusations have been used against autistics and other groups.

Statistically the only group we can single out for school shooting is the young white male.
Naturally, someone would argue that the population is so much smaller among the transgender’s that the results are disparate, but that ignores the fact that statistics with small amounts can easily be skewed by outliers. Statistics can be twisted to say virtually anything you want if you have an agenda.

Very well put.

[JohnH]

This small minority seems to be wildly disproportionately involved in mass shootings. Think Memphis.

This trend may be something to keep an eye on but statistics can also be easily manipulated in service of deeper motivations. For example people of Scandinavian descent seem to account for all school shootings in British Columbia, but I don't think that is very meaningful.

So you’re saying it’s mere coincidence? I posted the overall statistics earlier.

Might be good to remember that the 50% touted on this forum appears to be based on 1 out 2.

I posted statistics for all of North America. Statistically, by far the most significant factor in conducting a mass school shooting is being a transsexual.

It’s intellectually dishonest to then focus on what my the Canadian numbers. I’ll repeat my earlier post in case you missed it:

A transsexual is 25 times more likely to shoot up your children at their school than normal people, or 150 times more likely if we look at just Canada.

This is a very serious problem.

[barnhart]

You have accused me of dishonesty before. I think I'll let things stand as they are.

[temporal1]

I used to hear people say the school shootings are nearly all angry white kids who are gun nuts who also hate their parents.

I imagine there is exceedingly strong data to back this assertion but it serves as a good example of the weaknesses of data to solve the human condition or how easily data can be put to service to support ideology.

yes.and.
i think jbg’s assertion is largely based on incidents that occured before the trans phenom had everyday recognition in airwaves.
if it were apples to apples, would the assertion change? it might.

It’s easy to imagine NOW, if the 1999 Columbine murderers had acted in 2025, would any of them “identified as females”?
It seems likely. Anger+drama are a volatile mix.

From Columbine, i admit to being confused as to why school shootings happened in “safer” white-dominant suburban schools, UNTIL i read (somewhere) that in more urban areas, local violence is recognized, esp between one on one peers with handguns, thus, schools are/have been prepared for prevention.

stats+generalizations are interesting, value is limited.