ohio jones wrote: ↑Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:22 pmOut of the abundance of the heart the finger typeth. Except those who use speech-to-text, I guess, then the original version applies.
For speech-to-text, I think we can say both:
Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Out of the abundance of the mouth the typos flourish.
ohio jones wrote: ↑Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:22 pmIf grace and wisdom are cultivated in the heart, that will be evident in the posts. With some exceptions at times perhaps, human nature being what it is, but on the whole.
Exactly. But it's definitely harder where there is conflict, and MN has generally been a place where conflict flourishes. I'm trying to find ways to grow in grace myself - I'm better at it in places like church, which feels more like a safe space of grace and wisdom.
ohio jones wrote: ↑Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:22 pmWhen the opportunity arises to disagree or find fault with someone else, a wise and gracious person can find ways of doing that gently and lovingly rather than going into attack mode. Sometimes it helps to save a draft and come back later to reread it before posting. Sometimes it means not having the last word. Sometimes it means reading the Bible more than MN, and that will help develop the kind of character that makes people look forward to reading that person's posts instead of looking for the Foe button.
Good advice. I do actually read the Bible more than MN, but I'm still working on the rest.
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1. Are we discussing the topic? Good.
2. Are we going around and around in a fight? Let's stop doing that.
3. Is there some serious wrongdoing or relational injury? Let's address that, probably not in public and certainly not for show.
ohio jones wrote: ↑Sun Jul 27, 2025 11:22 pmIf grace and wisdom are cultivated in the heart, that will be evident in the posts. With some exceptions at times perhaps, human nature being what it is, but on the whole.
Exactly. But it's definitely harder where there is conflict, and MN has generally been a place where conflict flourishes. I'm trying to find ways to grow in grace myself - I'm better at it in places like church, which feels more like a safe space of grace and wisdom.
But people also have different forms of conversation styles — what one person may experience as mean and antagonistic, another one will experience as direct and honest. Tone is hard to determine online and written posts alone are not a good measure over whether someone has grace and wisdom in their hearts.
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"Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the fatherless."
