For a good example of Socratic questions from the mouth of Socrates, see Euthyphro (or any of the Socratic Dialogues).
https://classics.mit.edu/Plato/euthyfro.html
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For an Anabaptist perspective on Alex Jones…
I would tell him go abandon drunkenness, avoid social media, television, and being a famous personality, and seek and pursue peace. I would tell him to give up the pursuit of wealth. I would have also told him to “agree with his adversary quickly” instead of going to court. Most importantly, I would tell him the purpose of life is to live it serving and following Jesus. Then he probably wouldn’t have some of the troubles he’s facing either.
That doesn’t change my opinion that he was politically targeted and that the billion dollar judgment against him is basically political punishment. I would say more, but I don’t want to be sued as well.
I would tell him go abandon drunkenness, avoid social media, television, and being a famous personality, and seek and pursue peace. I would tell him to give up the pursuit of wealth. I would have also told him to “agree with his adversary quickly” instead of going to court. Most importantly, I would tell him the purpose of life is to live it serving and following Jesus. Then he probably wouldn’t have some of the troubles he’s facing either.
That doesn’t change my opinion that he was politically targeted and that the billion dollar judgment against him is basically political punishment. I would say more, but I don’t want to be sued as well.
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Over 700 have been in jail without bail since 2020 awaiting trial.
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The $1 billion fine was to shut him down, not admonish him or bring restitution to families.
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JohnHurt
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There was a spinoff from the X files called the "Lone Gunmen", where they predicted 9-11 six months before it happened:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_ ... _storyline
This is called "predictive programming".
Alex Jones reviewed this information, and a lot of other information and correctly predicted 9-11 about a month before it happened. He is on video with his 911 prediction, even today.
Jones also made the point that jet fuel, which is refined kerosene, could not reach the temperature needed to melt the steel girders in the World Trade Towers to make them fall.
Pointing out the flaws in 9-11 is how Jones became popular, and he blamed 9-11 on the Bush family, so Jones is not for one party over the other. The people that run both parties, Republican and Democrat, in the USA hate Jones for this.
Jones is the only person to sneak into Bohemian Grove and video the "Cremation of Care" ceremony, where the richest and most powerful men in the world make a mock human sacrifice of a child before a gigantic stone owl of Molech - each July - in a redwood forest in California. They hate Jones for revealing this too. Jones has it all on video. It is Satan worship. Nearly every president has been to Bohemian Grove before they were elected. Every one of them, except - if you know, PM me with your answer. Newt Gingrich pointed this out.
Jones reads the white papers issued by the Elites from the Council for Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Group, Davos, Bilderberg, "Tragedy and Hope", the Huxley brothers, Novel Harari, Klaus Schwab, Henry Kissinger, etc. From this, Jones is able to reveal their plans. It is not a crystal ball or speculation. These people communicate openly with each other. And Jones knows their moves before we do. "Tomorrow's News Today".
To stop someone like Jones, they usually go after your advertisers. So Jones sells all of his own products on his video channel, and is his own advertiser, and is very successful and has remained on the air for this reason.
Jones's audience is 4 times the size of CNN, while Joe Rogan is 10 times CNN. But Jones is the first person they attack, because they really hate Jones. They hope go after Rogan and Carlson when they dispense with Jones, but Jones won't go away.
In 2018, they removed Jones from every social media platform. Not just one, all of the tech giants deplatformed Jones, all at the same time in August 2018- like there is no elite that runs everything. Sure. Jones has also been "debanked" from PayPal and other financial institutions.
So Jones started his own video hosting service. And Jones is back on X or Twitter, thanks to Elon Must, who is somehow outside the elite and opposes AI and other elite things.
So the Elite never beat Alex Jones, he is more popular than ever. So now the elite is using lawfare.
Alex Jones never incited violence or made statements about the Sandy Hook families, he only asked questions. The questions Jones asked were backed up by videos that Jones recovered from the mainstream media. One video is where Anderson Cooper is interviewing a father of one of the children killed at Sandy Hook. Jones got the complete video before it was cropped. The Sandy Hook father is on the video laughing with his friends, and when Cooper called him up to talk, he almost can't wipe the smile off his face. Then he changes and starts crying on the camera. All the while, Cooper and this man's noses will disappear because they are obviously standing in front of a green screen. This video is why Jones asked if there were "crisis actors".
This is what Alex Jones questioned, and why he was taken to court. Not the families, Jones questioned the dinosaur media and how this was all set up. That is why they hate Alex Jones.
As a result, the evidence that Jones had done anything wrong was so flimsy, it could not hold up in front of a jury trial.
So when the trial started, the judge in Connecticut asked Jones for all of his financial records, which he provided. The judge claimed there were more records, and Jones had his attorney and accountants provide everything the judge requested. But the judge claimed there was even more records that Jones did not provide (even without any proof of these records), and then found Alex Jones guilty by default because he did not provide the records that did not exist.
So at the trial, the judge told Jones could not argue that he wasn't guilty. The judge said that Jones' guilt had already been determined. And there was a lot of other evidence Jones had that the judge suppressed that would have exonerated Jones. So all of these legal idiots did all of this to win a lawsuit where they got a 1.5 BILLION dollar judgement, which is impossible to collect. That should tell you how smart they are.
Jones sold his house and got a smaller house they could not take, and his possessions were sold including a 120 acre patch of land, and there is not a lot left. Jones said that if they take his broadcast station away, he will sleep on someone's couch with nothing and go to work for someone else, and be twice as popular as he is now. And that is very true, this is bringing a lot of attention to Jones, and is backfiring spectacularly against "whoever it is that is doing this."
If they take his broadcasting facility (Infowars), then they will have his t-shirts and supplements, but these items won't sell without Jones. So they have nothing. So even Jones' inventory is worthless. And the camera equipment at the station is all bare bones and 5 years old obsolete.
Jones doesn't care about money, and they don't understand that. That is how Jones beat them.
The Sandy Hook lawyers tried to create a governing board to run Inforwars and dictate what Jones could say, and Jones' answer was "I quit." So they still have nothing.
I understand there is 5 million dollars that they got out of Jones, that will be split between the Sandy Hook families, which would be $250,000 each family - BEFORE legal expenses. So the families aren't going to get anything either.
The Sandy Hook lawyers went before a new Texas judge this past week, and made it clear the wanted to shut Jones down. The Texas judge said that shutting someone down is not the purpose of bankruptcy, and you have gotten what you have, as this has gone on for 2 years and that is too long. So Infowars may stay on the air after all, just like it always has.
Alex Jones father is former dentist and sells all kinds of products at "DrJonesNaturals.com" or something (I have not been there). Alex said that Dr Jones Naturals is a sponsor of his show, and if Infowars is shut down, then just buy from this sponsor which is his father (which the Sandy Hook lawyers cannot touch or blame for Sandy Hook).
So Alex will still have an income through his father that they cannot touch. I did buy the nascent Iodine from Infowars, and it has really helped, I have a lot more energy. They used to put iodine in salt.
So Jones has a lot of good products, and it looks like Alex Jones will continue.
And Alex Jones does pray on air, and ask God for help, and Jones states in his broadcasts that is is spiritual war, and not physical, and only by calling on the Name of Jesus Christ can we overcome these people. It looks like that is working out really well for Alex.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_ ... _storyline
This is called "predictive programming".
Alex Jones reviewed this information, and a lot of other information and correctly predicted 9-11 about a month before it happened. He is on video with his 911 prediction, even today.
Jones also made the point that jet fuel, which is refined kerosene, could not reach the temperature needed to melt the steel girders in the World Trade Towers to make them fall.
Pointing out the flaws in 9-11 is how Jones became popular, and he blamed 9-11 on the Bush family, so Jones is not for one party over the other. The people that run both parties, Republican and Democrat, in the USA hate Jones for this.
Jones is the only person to sneak into Bohemian Grove and video the "Cremation of Care" ceremony, where the richest and most powerful men in the world make a mock human sacrifice of a child before a gigantic stone owl of Molech - each July - in a redwood forest in California. They hate Jones for revealing this too. Jones has it all on video. It is Satan worship. Nearly every president has been to Bohemian Grove before they were elected. Every one of them, except - if you know, PM me with your answer. Newt Gingrich pointed this out.
Jones reads the white papers issued by the Elites from the Council for Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Group, Davos, Bilderberg, "Tragedy and Hope", the Huxley brothers, Novel Harari, Klaus Schwab, Henry Kissinger, etc. From this, Jones is able to reveal their plans. It is not a crystal ball or speculation. These people communicate openly with each other. And Jones knows their moves before we do. "Tomorrow's News Today".
To stop someone like Jones, they usually go after your advertisers. So Jones sells all of his own products on his video channel, and is his own advertiser, and is very successful and has remained on the air for this reason.
Jones's audience is 4 times the size of CNN, while Joe Rogan is 10 times CNN. But Jones is the first person they attack, because they really hate Jones. They hope go after Rogan and Carlson when they dispense with Jones, but Jones won't go away.
In 2018, they removed Jones from every social media platform. Not just one, all of the tech giants deplatformed Jones, all at the same time in August 2018- like there is no elite that runs everything. Sure. Jones has also been "debanked" from PayPal and other financial institutions.
So Jones started his own video hosting service. And Jones is back on X or Twitter, thanks to Elon Must, who is somehow outside the elite and opposes AI and other elite things.
So the Elite never beat Alex Jones, he is more popular than ever. So now the elite is using lawfare.
Alex Jones never incited violence or made statements about the Sandy Hook families, he only asked questions. The questions Jones asked were backed up by videos that Jones recovered from the mainstream media. One video is where Anderson Cooper is interviewing a father of one of the children killed at Sandy Hook. Jones got the complete video before it was cropped. The Sandy Hook father is on the video laughing with his friends, and when Cooper called him up to talk, he almost can't wipe the smile off his face. Then he changes and starts crying on the camera. All the while, Cooper and this man's noses will disappear because they are obviously standing in front of a green screen. This video is why Jones asked if there were "crisis actors".
This is what Alex Jones questioned, and why he was taken to court. Not the families, Jones questioned the dinosaur media and how this was all set up. That is why they hate Alex Jones.
As a result, the evidence that Jones had done anything wrong was so flimsy, it could not hold up in front of a jury trial.
So when the trial started, the judge in Connecticut asked Jones for all of his financial records, which he provided. The judge claimed there were more records, and Jones had his attorney and accountants provide everything the judge requested. But the judge claimed there was even more records that Jones did not provide (even without any proof of these records), and then found Alex Jones guilty by default because he did not provide the records that did not exist.
So at the trial, the judge told Jones could not argue that he wasn't guilty. The judge said that Jones' guilt had already been determined. And there was a lot of other evidence Jones had that the judge suppressed that would have exonerated Jones. So all of these legal idiots did all of this to win a lawsuit where they got a 1.5 BILLION dollar judgement, which is impossible to collect. That should tell you how smart they are.
Jones sold his house and got a smaller house they could not take, and his possessions were sold including a 120 acre patch of land, and there is not a lot left. Jones said that if they take his broadcast station away, he will sleep on someone's couch with nothing and go to work for someone else, and be twice as popular as he is now. And that is very true, this is bringing a lot of attention to Jones, and is backfiring spectacularly against "whoever it is that is doing this."
If they take his broadcasting facility (Infowars), then they will have his t-shirts and supplements, but these items won't sell without Jones. So they have nothing. So even Jones' inventory is worthless. And the camera equipment at the station is all bare bones and 5 years old obsolete.
Jones doesn't care about money, and they don't understand that. That is how Jones beat them.
The Sandy Hook lawyers tried to create a governing board to run Inforwars and dictate what Jones could say, and Jones' answer was "I quit." So they still have nothing.
I understand there is 5 million dollars that they got out of Jones, that will be split between the Sandy Hook families, which would be $250,000 each family - BEFORE legal expenses. So the families aren't going to get anything either.
The Sandy Hook lawyers went before a new Texas judge this past week, and made it clear the wanted to shut Jones down. The Texas judge said that shutting someone down is not the purpose of bankruptcy, and you have gotten what you have, as this has gone on for 2 years and that is too long. So Infowars may stay on the air after all, just like it always has.
Alex Jones father is former dentist and sells all kinds of products at "DrJonesNaturals.com" or something (I have not been there). Alex said that Dr Jones Naturals is a sponsor of his show, and if Infowars is shut down, then just buy from this sponsor which is his father (which the Sandy Hook lawyers cannot touch or blame for Sandy Hook).
So Alex will still have an income through his father that they cannot touch. I did buy the nascent Iodine from Infowars, and it has really helped, I have a lot more energy. They used to put iodine in salt.
So Jones has a lot of good products, and it looks like Alex Jones will continue.
And Alex Jones does pray on air, and ask God for help, and Jones states in his broadcasts that is is spiritual war, and not physical, and only by calling on the Name of Jesus Christ can we overcome these people. It looks like that is working out really well for Alex.
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Josh
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Thanks for sharing that, John, and much of what you said is spot on. If they were actually about the truth then they’d target Rogan much more than Alex Jones, who regularly spews complete nonsense.
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JohnHurt
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Jones does say some far out things, like chemicals in the water turning the frogs gay. Of course, RFK Jr also made a living protecting the waterways, and that is how RFK got into opposing vaccines, because they were in the waterways.
Jones does a lot of nonsense to get attention, like saying he is going to haul his neighbor up on a chain and eat him. He is not serious, but does it to make a point that modern people can't survive without the grid. And the gay frogs is overblown to make a point about pollution in the waterways, not about gay frogs, but the average person only hears "turning the freaking frogs gay" and doesn't understand "forever chemicals" in our waterways and inside us too.
Tucker Carlson said Jones is one of the most entertaining people out there, and if you look at the nonsense Jones says as entertainment, Carlson is right. But a lot of Jones' nonsense is a parody that the average person doesn't get.
Jones' nonsense pales in comparison to the nonsense that kerosene can melt a steel girder, or two planes can knock down 3 buildings - now that really is nonsense.
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If Jones wasn't entertaining then he wouldn't have an audience.JohnHurt wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2024 6:39 pmJones does say some far out things, like chemicals in the water turning the frogs gay. Of course, RFK Jr also made a living protecting the waterways, and that is how RFK got into opposing vaccines, because they were in the waterways.
Jones does a lot of nonsense to get attention, like saying he is going to haul his neighbor up on a chain and eat him. He is not serious, but does it to make a point that modern people can't survive without the grid. And the gay frogs is overblown to make a point about pollution in the waterways, not about gay frogs, but the average person only hears "turning the freaking frogs gay" and doesn't understand "forever chemicals" in our waterways and inside us too.
Tucker Carlson said Jones is one of the most entertaining people out there, and if you look at the nonsense Jones says as entertainment, Carlson is right. But a lot of Jones' nonsense is a parody that the average person doesn't get.
Jones' nonsense pales in comparison to the nonsense that kerosene can melt a steel girder, or two planes can knock down 3 buildings - now that really is nonsense.
But none of what you wrote has any relevance to the circumstances of the defamation lawsuit that he lost. He could afford the best lawyers and still lost badly. And there is no indication that there was anything improper about the trial. He is, of course, free to appeal. But it doesn't appear that he has any grounds to do so.
The truth is always a defense against defamation. Jones himself admitted that he was lying and lied repeatedly. And here we are.
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