Progressive/Conservative threshold?

[ohio jones]

What group did Anabaptist disciples of Christ split away from?

Many of the congregations, not all, were formerly Beachy.

[mike]

What group did Anabaptist disciples of Christ split away from?

Many of the congregations, not all, were formerly Beachy.

That makes sense. The old Charity-style church in our area is supposedly considering joining up with them.

[Josh]

An open question I have is differences between BMA and ADC.

[mike]

An open question I have is differences between BMA and ADC.

If the local church here that is considering ADC is typical, my guess is that ADC is probably already more liberal than BMA and is headed further in that direction, and that BMA is more stable in theology and practice.

[joshuabgood]

An open question I have is differences between BMA and ADC.

ADC is more congregational and has a more "Beachy" feel..and is influenced by "kingdom" theology. BMA is more like a conference and is influenced by Reformed theology. And also "shorts." A few of BMA original churches "do shorts" on men...but no new congregations are allowed. There isn't such a proscription from ADC.

[Neto]

An open question I have is differences between BMA and ADC.

ADC is more congregational and has a more "Beachy" feel..and is influenced by "kingdom" theology. BMA is more like a conference and is influenced by Reformed theology. And also "shorts." A few of BMA original churches "do shorts" on men...but no new congregations are allowed. There isn't such a proscription from ADC.

Please describe how you would define 'congregational'. The reason I ask is because the MB conference congregations are more 'congregationalist' than anything I have seen in any Mennonite congregation here east of the Mississippi.

I understand and use the term 'congregationalist' as a type of church governance at the congregation level. That is, there isn't the strong 'ministry group control' that I see in the Swiss Brethren background groups here. Admittedly, my experience here is limited to Beachy Amish-Mennonite, one congregation in the 'Conservative Mennonite Conference' where we attended for 12 years (my wife as a member, I as a non-member - I was still MB) and our present congregation, which is a split from the BAM.)

[mike]

I understand and use the term 'congregationalist' as a type of church governance at the congregation level. That is, there isn't the strong 'ministry group control' that I see in the Swiss Brethren background groups here.

I've always thought of congregational church government as there being no organizational structure beyond that of a local congregation.

[Josh]

An open question I have is differences between BMA and ADC.

ADC is more congregational and has a more "Beachy" feel..and is influenced by "kingdom" theology. BMA is more like a conference and is influenced by Reformed theology. And also "shorts." A few of BMA original churches "do shorts" on men...but no new congregations are allowed. There isn't such a proscription from ADC.

Interestingly, BMA has taken official stances against Reformed doctrine. But perhaps that’s just a sign of how much it’s creeping in.

Neto, I believe that “congregational” in the Dutch/“Russian” Anabaptist model is quite different from the typical Amish/Amish-Mennonite congregational model. There really needs to be unique words for each kind of thing.

[Neto]

re: What is 'Congregationalism'?

Decided to see what the 'intertubes' have to say.

Wikipedia:

Congregationalism (also Congregationalist churches or Congregational churches) is a Protestant, Reformed (Calvinist) tradition in which churches practice congregational government; where each congregation independently and autonomously runs its own affairs.

I never.

EDIT:
So, Looks like I have the wrong word. (But I would have taken this definition - other than the naming of Calvinism - be describe "congregational autonomy". I'll have to think of a different word for what I have always thought of as 'congregationalist'.)

[Praxis+Theodicy]

re: What is 'Congregationalism'?

Decided to see what the 'intertubes' have to say.

Wikipedia:

Congregationalism (also Congregationalist churches or Congregational churches) is a Protestant, Reformed (Calvinist) tradition in which churches practice congregational government; where each congregation independently and autonomously runs its own affairs.

I never.

EDIT:
So, Looks like I have the wrong word. (But I would have taken this definition - other than the naming of Calvinism - be describe "congregational autonomy". I'll have to think of a different word for what I have always thought of as 'congregationalist'.)

The term is confusing, because it sounds like, and is sometimes used in, the way you describe.

But it is also the official name of a church "denomination". That denomination is basically what the Puritans formed when they moved to America. They didn't call themselves Puritans as a denominational label. Hence, in New England you'll see "First Congregational Church of So-and-So Town" but not "First Puritan Church of So-and-So Town".