barnhart wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:38 pm
I can't see that Jazzman asked for the opinion of rank and file Republicans. He just asked what the participants of this thread think.
Yes, that was the intention... I'm aware there's probably few if any "rank & file" or card carrying members of the GOP here... but there are certainly adjacent; there are certainly talking point conveyors... I assume from that group, based on what they post here, that they believe in the impeachment of Biden / prosecution of Hunter, etc cause. So I'm asking those people, who also inhabit these forums. What do you or your preferred media think of the latest developments?
Not sure that I am "rank & file" or card carrying member of the GOP but will respond on what I think. Alexander Smirnov lied and lying is wrong.
Now that we are playing the game on what "people and their preferred media" think about lying political people. What do the people who defend the president and his family, who inhabit these forums and their media, think of the constant lying on the part of the president? What did they think about the lying about Trump/Russia collusion lie, or the Steele Dossier lie?
Don't answer those questions, because we should all believe that lying is wrong, no matter who does it.
barnhart wrote: ↑Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:38 pm
I can't see that Jazzman asked for the opinion of rank and file Republicans. He just asked what the participants of this thread think.
Yes, that was the intention... I'm aware there's probably few if any "rank & file" or card carrying members of the GOP here... but there are certainly adjacent; there are certainly talking point conveyors... I assume from that group, based on what they post here, that they believe in the impeachment of Biden / prosecution of Hunter, etc cause. So I'm asking those people, who also inhabit these forums. What do you or your preferred media think of the latest developments?
Generally speaking I have other things to do than keep up go date on every item of news. I did keep up to date on the Fanni Willis corruption case since local government corruption is an interest of mine.
Remember when Hunter Biden demanded he demanded his alleged corruption hearing with the Oversight Committee be public, and not a closed door hearing. Now when giving an opportunity to have a a public hearing, he has denied that same opportunity he clamored for a few months ago.
Grace wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:39 am
Remember when Hunter Biden demanded he demanded his alleged corruption hearing with the Oversight Committee be public, and not a closed door hearing. Now when giving an opportunity to have a a public hearing, he has denied that same opportunity he clamored for a few months ago.
Now they are just grandstanding and being abusive. He already testified to the committee. They chose to take his testimony in closed session. It's done.
Face it Grace. There is no evidence that Joe Biden engaged in any illegal corruption of any kind. After all these millions spent and endless hearings by four separate investigations they have found nothing. If they had found anything we would have moved on to an impeachment long ago.
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Grace wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:39 am
Remember when Hunter Biden demanded he demanded his alleged corruption hearing with the Oversight Committee be public, and not a closed door hearing. Now when giving an opportunity to have a a public hearing, he has denied that same opportunity he clamored for a few months ago.
Now they are just grandstanding and being abusive. He already testified to the committee. They chose to take his testimony in closed session. It's done.
Face it Grace. There is no evidence that Joe Biden engaged in any illegal corruption of any kind. After all these millions spent and endless hearings by four separate investigations they have found nothing. If they had found anything we would have moved on to an impeachment long ago.
Doesn’t make him less lawless and less of a constant compulsive liar, who has committed numerous illegal acts. There is overwhelming evidence that Joe Biden willfully and illegally retained classified documents at different locations. He shared information from those documents with his ghost writer. Yet he won’t be charged for his lawlessness, on grounds his memory is to lax to go before a jury. Which is a crazy excuse, because they could always jack him up with drugs, like they did before the SOTU address.
joshuabgood wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:30 pm Any reasonable person, methinks, knows that Hunter is a crook, and that Joe abused his perceived power to make life easier financially for Hunter, as Father to a son.
Congress is examining whether Joe Biden was paid by foreign nationals to influence United States policy while he was Vice President, using his son as the channel.
Of course it's nothing new for a public official to have a close relative involved in things that are at least shady, if not downright illegal. Historically the approach has been to create some distance in the relationship in order to avoid the appearance of impropriety. That's not the case here; Joe seems to be doubling down on his approval and endorsement of his son. Imagine how things would be different if he would have handled the Hunter/Ukraine connection this way from the beginning:
Jimmy Carter wrote: I am deeply concerned that Billy has received funds from Libya and that he may be under obligation to Libya. These facts will govern my relationship with Billy as long as I am president. Billy has had no influence on U.S. policy or actions concerning Libya in the past, and he will have no influence in the future.
Imagine.
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Most or all of this drama, humiliation, wasted taxpayer money could be spared -
with even modest attempt at presenting balanced facts from the start.
joshuabgood wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:30 pm Any reasonable person, methinks, knows that Hunter is a crook, and that Joe abused his perceived power to make life easier financially for Hunter, as Father to a son.
ohio jones wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:34 am
Of course it's nothing new for a public official to have a close relative involved in things that are at least shady, if not downright illegal. Historically the approach has been to create some distance in the relationship in order to avoid the appearance of impropriety. That's not the case here; Joe seems to be doubling down on his approval and endorsement of his son. Imagine how things would be different if he would have handled the Hunter/Ukraine connection this way from the beginning:
Imagine.
Those threads are a year old. Now that we have had a year of Congress investing Joe Biden's activities, what have they actually found? Any thing on Joe Biden's part that broke any laws or provided any grounds to impeach Joe Biden?
The answer I suspect is crickets.
Oh, and by the way, Joe Biden has already announced he is not going to intervene in any way in Hunter Biden's trial. It is his own justice department that is investigating and prosecuting Hunter Biden. And it seems to be completely hands off by the White House. As it should be.
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If there was actual political intervention on the part of Joe Biden then it is the most incompetent political interference in history. Since Hunter Biden's plea deal was upended a year ago and now they are finally undertaking a high-stakes trial right in the middle of the election season.
Has Joe Biden pardoned a single one of his political cronies for anything? I'm not aware that he has. Although I'd be happy to be corrected. Meanwhile Trump was handing out pardons like candy to his political cronies during the last year of his administration.
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