Those who are genuinely interested in the truth try to find facts from reliable sources, ask questions, and answer simple questions with direct answers. Everyone starts with the benefit of the doubt, but nobody is the sole source of truth.MaxPC wrote:Those who are genuinely interested in the truth are mature enough to contact me and the Plain Catholics directly as they have always done.
If you had facts to back your claims, I think you would have shared them by now. If Plain Catholics were part of a continuous 100+ year movement starting with the Catholic Land Movement, contrary to the books and articles that say the Catholic Land Movement died out without a successor, I think you would have told us about who carried it on and where, sharing their writings or things written about them. If you had real pictures of Plain Catholics dressed like German Baptists and Amish and living in homes like theirs, I think you would have used those pictures on your website instead of plagiarizing images of German Baptists and Amish and various Amish and Mennonite museums found on Pinterest and other Internet sites. If Plain Catholics really go to Amish and Mennonite services and take their Amish and Mennonite friends to mass with them sometimes, I think we would see people sharing that on various forums, and I think we would know about them via the Mennonite network. If Canon Law or the Catechism said what you claim, I think you would have shared a quote or two that say parents are free to decide whether to baptize their children as infants or wait until they are older.
If people are learning new facts that help us believe what you are saying in your PMs, I hope they share them. But as things stand, I don't think you have shown yourself to be genuinely interested in the truth, and facts are what we need to establish the truth of your claims.
I do change my mind in the light of facts. Providing the kind of information that I asked for above would help me see that I was wrong. But I won't just take your word for it. I gave you the benefit of the doubt for the first year or so, but you have long since burned through that.MaxPC wrote:Those who are simply trying to stir trouble and gossip have no interest in living a life of authentic Christian discipleship and nothing I say will change that. They will simply ignore reason and continue to twist and manipulate the truth, just as has happened to Anabaptists and other followers of Christ down through the ages.
I am not your judge. But to me, that paragraph - and especially your PMs to other people - seem designed to stir up controversy and use character assassination to avoid discussing what the facts are. When caught in a lie, you attack the other person's character while claiming to be a martyr. That's not martyrdom. And it's a tactic I see starting with the first posts on the Plain Catholic site.
If these things are not lies, please share the information that we are missing. If you share this information in PMs, I hope someone else will share it here so we can know the truth you claim we missed. To me, some of the things I listed in the first paragraphs seem to "twist and manipulate the truth", and you seem to be ignoring the facts people provide, refusing to respond to them, going on the attack instead.
Authentic Christian discipleship really is the goal. And authentic is an important part of that.