steve-in-kville wrote:Not trying to be a jerk... but I am really lost in that response. Being gay is a sin. Pure and simple. Why are we debating this? I was an addict at one time (tried to be a career alcoholic). Many can say that is an "illness" or "disease." Yes and no, it was a lot deeper than that.
Congratulations on overcoming alcohol!
I don't think "being gay" is a sin. I think having gay sex is a sin. I don't think "being straight" is a sin either, but there's only one woman I can have sex with, and that's because we are married. Because marriage is rooted in our creation as male and female, gays don't have a valid outlet for sex.
I really don't know if you can "cure" people of homosexual desire, there's really no good science on that, and it's so politicized and emotional that nobody wants to fund any study that would give a clear answer. The Bible doesn't tell us the answer either. It just tells men not to sleep with men and women not to sleep with women. So I am really uncomfortable promising people cures that neither the Bible nor science promise. I don't feel that I have a solid foundation for making that promise.
steve-in-kville wrote:I'll be banned from this place in the next 24 hours. I can see it.
I really doubt that, you aren't doing anything wrong, you are being respectful and expressing your views. We don't have to agree on everything to have a respectful discussion. I would really be upset if you were banned for the things you have said.
Let me share my background: My first wife eventually left me to marry another woman. I don't know if she could have changed her desires or not, I think she tried. We basically agreed to have a sexless marriage until she left me after 23 years. That required both of us to be willing to live without sex. I don't know if there is any way she could have changed her desires, we did not find one.
Is it biblical? Is it Christlike? Is it loving? Is it true? How can I find out?