Gender confusion

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
temporal1

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NOTHING TO SEE HERE

SAM BRINTON / “Biden's Nuclear Luggage Thief Gets Caught!” / -10min

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In this video I react to Sam Brinton who is deputy assistant secretary of Spent Fuel and Waste Disposition in the Office of Nuclear Energy for the Biden Administration, being caught twice for stealing suitcases from airports!

It’s not just THE ELECTED that deserve attention, THE APPOINTED run under the radar all through government, in D.C. AND in state government.
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Outsider

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GaryK wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:27 pm So now it appears that a "woman" can still enjoy being a man while being incarcerated with a bunch of women. If you wanted to get away from being a man and now identify as a "woman" why would you want to function as a man?
Two women incarcerated at Edna Mahan Correctional Facility — the state’s only female prison — have become pregnant after having sex with a transgender inmate, NJ Advance Media has learned.
https://www.nj.com/news/2022/04/two-wom ... -says.html
They "identify as a lesbian". I kid you not. They are dead serious. I've seen videos of men and women who are in ostensibly heterosexaul relationships say that they're not, they're either one or both "trans and gay". It's sooooooooo... tiresome.

People are cray-cray.
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GaryK

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Social Worker Secretly Began Gender Transition for 13-Year-Old Girl in Maine Public School: Mom
https://www.themainewire.com/2022/12/so ... chool-mom/
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Outsider

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Soloist wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 8:52 am
An anorexic is not of sound mind and no doctor would ever encourage this body image disorder yet here the doctors are endorsing the butchering of the body to fix gender dysphoria.
I quite seriously think this, and other things going on in our society, is truly a part and parcel of a depopulation agenda.
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temporal1

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Outsider wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:48 pm
Soloist wrote: ↑Tue Jun 14, 2022 8:52 am An anorexic is not of sound mind and no doctor would ever encourage this body image disorder yet here the doctors are endorsing the butchering of the body to fix gender dysphoria.
I quite seriously think this, and other things going on in our society, is truly a part and parcel of a depopulation agenda.
These are grave times, the world has gotten here on promises of, “it’s no big deal,” “no one’s going to be hurt,” etc.
Past time for serious reevaluation and soul-searching. Evil has control of gov and the public treasury. It’s so much worse than former horrifying cults, like Jim Jones. So much more widespread, so much harder to curtail.

Now with more covid in China, it’s fair to wonder, “what if??” “what are they doing??”
China has no history of valuing the sanctity of life.

It’s all so demented.
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nett
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Outsider wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:40 pm
GaryK wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:27 pm So now it appears that a "woman" can still enjoy being a man while being incarcerated with a bunch of women. If you wanted to get away from being a man and now identify as a "woman" why would you want to function as a man?
Two women incarcerated at Edna Mahan Correctional Facility — the state’s only female prison — have become pregnant after having sex with a transgender inmate, NJ Advance Media has learned.
https://www.nj.com/news/2022/04/two-wom ... -says.html
They "identify as a lesbian". I kid you not. They are dead serious. I've seen videos of men and women who are in ostensibly heterosexaul relationships say that they're not, they're either one or both "trans and gay". It's sooooooooo... tiresome.

People are cray-cray.
Szd, is Outsider's response dehumanizing? What is the proper reaction to this story?
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Josh

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Ken wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:35 pmIf you actually paid attention to what kids these days are absorbing it is about 99.9% hypersexualized heterosexual messaging. On TV, in the toy aisle, online, in the mall, in advertising, literally everywhere. And maybe 0.1% is in the other direction. If even that.
Most CAs (Conservative Anabaptists) are very concerned about this. Most CAs avoid TV and try to buy wholesome toys.
Which is illustrated by the fact that we are talking about 1 page out of perhaps 2000 pages of material in a 19-book American Girl series. For example, the biggest toy manufacturer is Mattel. Why don't you go to their web site. They have nearly 1,000 different dolls and doll sets listed. Take a look through them all and tell us the percentage that are LGBT or not gender-normative. Here you go have fun: https://shop.mattel.com/collections/dolls-dollhouses
A lot of CAs (most of them) avoid many of these kinds of dolls. The Amish go so far as to have faceless dolls (which isn’t an extreme I go to, but one that I respect).
Or go to the Disney Channel and tell us what percentage of the characters in their cartoons or live action shows are LGBT versus ordinary feminine/masculine or extreme versions of such like all the Disney Princess shows. I don't know if this link will work but here you go. Here is their kid series page: https://www.disneyplus.com/series/6bda2 ... e2c80aa6fe and here is their kid's movie page: https://www.disneyplus.com/movies/3314d ... 749e264dd0
Most CAs don’t watch Disney TV or movies.
Or go to the mall and peruse Aeropostale or H&M or any other popular clothing store for teens and tell us what kind of sexuality they are promoting. Trust me, the much bigger problem is steering your teen away from dresses like these https://www.aeropostale.com/floral-scoo ... 49142.html than getting groomed in the mall to be LGBT.

That is the the culture that our kids are actually swimming in.
CAs are very concerned about this and most prefer to maintain the skill and ability to sew their own clothes, precisely to avoid this kind of hyper-sexualised environment including for younger children and teens.
We can have a conversation about the messaging that our kids are getting in the media, online, in advertising and so forth. And frankly it isn't good. And it is of great concern to a lot of parents. It is a tidal wave of sexualized imagery and content, much of it hypersexualized. But "transgender grooming" it is not. It is very much the opposite. The fact that you have to look so long and hard to even find snippets of material you can label as such pretty much proves the point.
Actually, this grooming is becoming much more overt and it is extremely distressing for children who have been subjected and now suffer from it. And the grooming is not just trans and lgbt stuff - a great deal of what is out there and what is being promoted in a subtil fashion also has bondage / sadism themes which I think is extremely evil.

That’s why I speak out against this stuff here on MN.
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Josh

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Regarding hostility from Christians to unrepentant sinners in their midst, I argue what is needed is more hostility, not less.

Jeriah Mast was an lgbt groomer who wasn’t treated with any hostility at all. He was instead accommodated and treated with “grace” and politeness and thus tolerated to groom young teenage males over and over. No “hostility” there - the only hostility was towards anyone who called it out, who received a reprimand of “why aren’t you more loving and forgiving?”

I am not talking about hostility towards sinners in the world. I am talking about those within our ranks.

“Lgbt children” is a false concept that doesn’t exist. Children don’t have a sexuality. Some children have been abused and are victims. But Sliceitup talking about an “lgbt child” shows precisely what is wrong with tolerating LGBT groomers. No child should have sexuality imposed on them, and I believe Jesus spoke very clearly about this.
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Ken
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Josh wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:18 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:35 pmIf you actually paid attention to what kids these days are absorbing it is about 99.9% hypersexualized heterosexual messaging. On TV, in the toy aisle, online, in the mall, in advertising, literally everywhere. And maybe 0.1% is in the other direction. If even that.
Most CAs (Conservative Anabaptists) are very concerned about this. Most CAs avoid TV and try to buy wholesome toys.
Which is illustrated by the fact that we are talking about 1 page out of perhaps 2000 pages of material in a 19-book American Girl series. For example, the biggest toy manufacturer is Mattel. Why don't you go to their web site. They have nearly 1,000 different dolls and doll sets listed. Take a look through them all and tell us the percentage that are LGBT or not gender-normative. Here you go have fun: https://shop.mattel.com/collections/dolls-dollhouses
A lot of CAs (most of them) avoid many of these kinds of dolls. The Amish go so far as to have faceless dolls (which isn’t an extreme I go to, but one that I respect).
Or go to the Disney Channel and tell us what percentage of the characters in their cartoons or live action shows are LGBT versus ordinary feminine/masculine or extreme versions of such like all the Disney Princess shows. I don't know if this link will work but here you go. Here is their kid series page: https://www.disneyplus.com/series/6bda2 ... e2c80aa6fe and here is their kid's movie page: https://www.disneyplus.com/movies/3314d ... 749e264dd0
Most CAs don’t watch Disney TV or movies.
Or go to the mall and peruse Aeropostale or H&M or any other popular clothing store for teens and tell us what kind of sexuality they are promoting. Trust me, the much bigger problem is steering your teen away from dresses like these https://www.aeropostale.com/floral-scoo ... 49142.html than getting groomed in the mall to be LGBT.

That is the the culture that our kids are actually swimming in.
CAs are very concerned about this and most prefer to maintain the skill and ability to sew their own clothes, precisely to avoid this kind of hyper-sexualised environment including for younger children and teens.
We can have a conversation about the messaging that our kids are getting in the media, online, in advertising and so forth. And frankly it isn't good. And it is of great concern to a lot of parents. It is a tidal wave of sexualized imagery and content, much of it hypersexualized. But "transgender grooming" it is not. It is very much the opposite. The fact that you have to look so long and hard to even find snippets of material you can label as such pretty much proves the point.
Actually, this grooming is becoming much more overt and it is extremely distressing for children who have been subjected and now suffer from it. And the grooming is not just trans and lgbt stuff - a great deal of what is out there and what is being promoted in a subtil fashion also has bondage / sadism themes which I think is extremely evil.

That’s why I speak out against this stuff here on MN.
This thread isn't about so-called "gender confusion" in the the tiny insular CA community. It is about larger society. And I think my point is entirely accurate. Namely that in the larger society about 99% of what kids get in terms of messaging is hyper stereotypical heterosexual gender roles. In toys, in traditional media, in social media, in retail and advertising. In fact you have to look really really hard to find anything resembling any sort of pro-trans or supportive trans message as illustrated by this example of one or two pages out of a 19-book series of thousands of pages. That is extremely weak evidence for the proposition that teens are bombarded by pro-trans messaging. The exact opposite is actually the truth.

That doesn't mean there aren't teens out there struggling with mental health issues. Clearly there are. There are kids struggling with depression, suicide, anorexia, overeating, violent tendencies, and yes, sexual identity. Which means we should be focusing on more mental health care for teens rather than some hysterical over-reaction to trans kids driven by right-wing media that is all out of proportion and absolutely smacks of hatred and bigotry. Kids need help and love, not hate and bigotry.
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Josh

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Ken wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:46 pmThis thread isn't about so-called "gender confusion" in the the tiny insular CA community. It is about larger society.
I can’t change broader society but can follow the scriptures: “come out from among them, and be ye separate.”

Society is full of wickedness and evil. Those who seek to follow Christ would do well to separate themselves from this evil.
And I think my point is entirely accurate. Namely that in the larger society about 99% of what kids get in terms of messaging is hyper stereotypical heterosexual gender roles. In toys, in traditional media, in social media, in retail and advertising. In fact you have to look really really hard to find anything resembling any sort of pro-trans or supportive trans message as illustrated by this example of one or two pages out of a 19-book series of thousands of pages. That is extremely weak evidence for the proposition that teens are bombarded by pro-trans messaging. The exact opposite is actually the truth.
Mass media is full of evil and that is why the Christian should call all good men to withdraw from it and refuse to pollute their families with it.
That doesn't mean there aren't teens out there struggling with mental health issues. Clearly there are. There are kids struggling with depression, suicide, anorexia, overeating, violent tendencies, and yes, sexual identity. Which means we should be focusing on more mental health care for teens rather than some hysterical over-reaction to trans kids driven by right-wing media that is all out of proportion and absolutely smacks of hatred and bigotry.
It is not hated and bigotry to want to protect children from evil influences.

I don’t appreciate the left’s decision to frame traditional biblical morality as “hatred and bigotry”.
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