Victory for Religious Freedom

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Ken, most of us don’t believe the left wing biased “fact check”ers anymore. They called us terrorists. We haven’t forgotten.
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Josh wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:31 pm Ken, most of us don’t believe the left wing biased “fact check”ers anymore. They called us terrorists. We haven’t forgotten.
Who specifically is calling YOU a terrorist?

Are you one of the unhinged people making death threats against school board members and other school employees?
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Ken wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:44 pm
Josh wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:31 pm Ken, most of us don’t believe the left wing biased “fact check”ers anymore. They called us terrorists. We haven’t forgotten.
Who specifically is calling YOU a terrorist?

Are you one of the unhinged people making death threats against school board members and other school employees?
Any parents who would go to a school board meeting and criticise things like CRT were being described as “domestic terrorists”.

That is simply a way to make sure parents don’t get involved. Nobody wants to get harassed by the federal government. Not worth it.
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Josh wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:35 pm
Ken wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:44 pm
Josh wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 5:31 pm Ken, most of us don’t believe the left wing biased “fact check”ers anymore. They called us terrorists. We haven’t forgotten.
Who specifically is calling YOU a terrorist?

Are you one of the unhinged people making death threats against school board members and other school employees?
Any parents who would go to a school board meeting and criticise things like CRT were being described as “domestic terrorists”.

That is simply a way to make sure parents don’t get involved. Nobody wants to get harassed by the federal government. Not worth it.
Again, no they weren’t. You keep making this claim but it simply is not true. I challenge you to find a single example of a government official labeling as “domestic terrorists” parents who go to school board meetings to criticize CRT.
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Ken wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:40 am
Josh wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:35 pm
Ken wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 7:44 pm

Who specifically is calling YOU a terrorist?

Are you one of the unhinged people making death threats against school board members and other school employees?
Any parents who would go to a school board meeting and criticise things like CRT were being described as “domestic terrorists”.

That is simply a way to make sure parents don’t get involved. Nobody wants to get harassed by the federal government. Not worth it.
Again, no they weren’t. You keep making this claim but it simply is not true. I challenge you to find a single example of a government official labeling as “domestic terrorists” parents who go to school board meetings to criticize CRT.
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2022/ma ... e-deployed

I remember hearing about it, was so alarming & scary really to have concerned parents not wanting CRT forced on their children being labeled "domestic terrorists"

Not sure this was the best source but it had made the news. It seems it was a scare tactic to make parents afraid to speak out
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Valerie wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:48 am
Ken wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 12:40 am
Josh wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:35 pm

Any parents who would go to a school board meeting and criticise things like CRT were being described as “domestic terrorists”.

That is simply a way to make sure parents don’t get involved. Nobody wants to get harassed by the federal government. Not worth it.
Again, no they weren’t. You keep making this claim but it simply is not true. I challenge you to find a single example of a government official labeling as “domestic terrorists” parents who go to school board meetings to criticize CRT.
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2022/ma ... e-deployed

I remember hearing about it, was so alarming & scary really to have concerned parents not wanting CRT forced on their children being labeled "domestic terrorists"

Not sure this was the best source but it had made the news. It seems it was a scare tactic to make parents afraid to speak out
That is not an example of what we are talking about. That is an example of unhinged people making death threats to school board members and other school officials. That wasn't about parents showing up to school board meetings to testify about CRT or any other educational topic.

Unless you are claiming that the parents who want to testify about CRT are so unhinged that they are making death threats to school officials over something so trivial.

What do you think the purpose of death threats is other than to instill terror? Like, for example, this guy who threatened to commit mass murder at his local school over a drag show that existed only in his unhinged mind: https://www.unionleader.com/news/courts ... 83bc9.html

That isn't someone who wants to have a discussion about CRT at a school board meeting. And those are the types of people that need to be investigated.
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No, Ken. Anyone who opposes CRT was described as a “domestic terrorist”.

The purpose of this is to chill normal parents from being involved in local school boards.
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Ken wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:28 am That is not an example of what we are talking about. That is an example of unhinged people making death threats to school board members and other school officials. That wasn't about parents showing up to school board meetings to testify about CRT or any other educational topic.
You're wrong. The unhinged people were equating dissent to death threats, and that's what the article says.
"We wanted to write to you directly to address this matter. On behalf of NSBA, we regret and apologize for the letter," the organization wrote, noting that"there was no justification for some of the language included in the letter."

The initial 6-page letter sent on September 29, asked the administration to examine whether parental outrage at school-board members over mask mandates and "propaganda purporting the false inclusion of critical race theory" required a federal investigation.

"As these acts of malice, violence, and threats against public school officials have increased, the classification of these heinous actions could be the equivalent to a form of domestic terrorism and hate crimes," it read.
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Outsider wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 3:44 pm
Ken wrote: Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:28 am That is not an example of what we are talking about. That is an example of unhinged people making death threats to school board members and other school officials. That wasn't about parents showing up to school board meetings to testify about CRT or any other educational topic.
You're wrong. The unhinged people were equating dissent to death threats, and that's what the article says.
"We wanted to write to you directly to address this matter. On behalf of NSBA, we regret and apologize for the letter," the organization wrote, noting that"there was no justification for some of the language included in the letter."

The initial 6-page letter sent on September 29, asked the administration to examine whether parental outrage at school-board members over mask mandates and "propaganda purporting the false inclusion of critical race theory" required a federal investigation.

"As these acts of malice, violence, and threats against public school officials have increased, the classification of these heinous actions could be the equivalent to a form of domestic terrorism and hate crimes," it read.
Again, we are talking about one letter from a non-profit organization that was concerned about actual violence and death threats directed at school boards and school employees. The middle paragraph you just cited above is the Christian Broadcast Network's characterization of the letter, not the actual letter which you can find here and concerned entirely about violence and threats of violence: https://web.archive.org/web/20210930100 ... -92921.pdf

If people are threatening violence and making death threats over mask mandates or CRT then yes, those should be investigated. That sort of behavior has no place in any civilized society. Mass shootings and acts of violence are indeed a growing problem in our society. Did the NSBA use unnecessarily inflammatory language? Yes, perhaps. But this is not the Federal Government labeling all opponents of CRT as domestic terrorists as Josh claims. In fact there are no government officials who labeled all opponents of CRT as domestic terrorists. It simply didn't happen.
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Ken, most of us don’t believe biased sources like “fact-check” anymore. We all know what was said. The government retracted it once it was obvious calling half of America terrorists wasn’t something they could get away with.
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