Where’s the logic?
Where’s the logic?
Things that make no common sense in our culture.
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Re: Where’s the logic?
Why is bacteria considered life on Mars when a Prenatal heartbeat is not considered life on earth?
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I would guess from the modern secularist point of view the unborn are considered alive but not fully human, or not in a position to command human status.
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Back in the day, those who had TV could watch "Wonder Woman", now people "wonder" what a woman even is.
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Biologically speaking, every living cell is considered alive including all sperm and eggs. Heartbeats aren't a criteria for life, many living organisms don't have hearts including, for example, all plants. And human life does not actually begin, it is an endless life cycle between haploid and diploid forms, each new living cell forming through the division of other living cells. So to a biologist (or scientifically speaking), the sperm cells that you produce by the hundreds of millions each day through cell division are also living human life forms.
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Human life does distinctly begin at a certain point as a new individual who is not the same person as either of their parents. It's quite sad that I even have to say this, but perhaps the level of science and biology literacy is lower than I thought.
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The sperm and egg that fuse together to form a zygote were just as alive as the subsequent zygote they formed. By any definition of life that you want to use. And there is nothing scientific that says a cell with 46 chromosomes is any more alive than a cell with 23. The human life cycle has two distinct forms, a diploid form and a haploid form. The lifecycle of some organisms has 3 or 4 distinct life stages or forms.
Last edited by Ken on Thu Mar 27, 2025 4:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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The new zygot is a distinct individual, though; it is not part of the father nor part of the mother. Of course, some people think a baby gestated 35 weeks along isn't a human either, but that's a different topic.Ken wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 4:35 pmThe sperm and egg that fuse together to form a zygote were just as alive as the subsequent zygote they formed. By any definition of life that you want to use. And there is nothing scientific that says a cell with 46 chromosomes is any more alive than a cell with 23.
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Every cell is distinct and every cell is alive. Regardless of its chromosome count. No scientist would argue otherwise.JohnH wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 4:36 pmThe new zygot is a distinct individual, though; it is not part of the father nor part of the mother. Of course, some people think a baby gestated 35 weeks along isn't a human either, but that's a different topic.Ken wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 4:35 pmThe sperm and egg that fuse together to form a zygote were just as alive as the subsequent zygote they formed. By any definition of life that you want to use. And there is nothing scientific that says a cell with 46 chromosomes is any more alive than a cell with 23.
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