https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/2 ... -prisoners
In your opinion,
What it the likelihood that the stories in this article are mostly true?
What it the likelihood that the Taliban will do better than the Americans and Afghan guards at treating their prisoners humanely?
Torture in Afghan Prisons
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Torture in Afghan Prisons
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Re: Torture in Afghan Prisons
I think it is highly likely that the US and its allies used torture and abuse. There was tremendous amounts of information about that with respect to Iraq and Abu Graib. I have no reason to think that Afghanistan was any different. The initial years of the “war on terror” were very much gloves off. And when things reached the line where Americans were reluctant to cross, they often farmed out the worst stuff to other middle eastern ‘allies’ who had were less squeamish about it.Ernie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:28 pm https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/2 ... -prisoners
In your opinion,
What it the likelihood that the stories in this article are mostly true?
What it the likelihood that the Taliban will do better than the Americans and Afghan guards at treating their prisoners humanely?
As for whether the Taliban will be better? Who knows. Probably not. Most of the prisons in that part of the world are notoriously harsh.
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Re: Torture in Afghan Prisons
Why should we read propaganda from an organisation owned and operated by the Qatar government?Ernie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:28 pm https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/2 ... -prisoners
In your opinion,
What it the likelihood that the stories in this article are mostly true?
What it the likelihood that the Taliban will do better than the Americans and Afghan guards at treating their prisoners humanely?
Of course, I don't doubt at all that conditions in American-run prisons are bad. Just look at what they are like in America itself. I'm not sure why any of us should have an opinion about it though, other than to make the observation that I would prefer my own country not be busy operating prisons on the opposite side of the globe and tossing people into them.
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Re: Torture in Afghan Prisons
I believe what they say the Americans did and what went on in that prison.Ernie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:28 pm https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/2 ... -prisoners
In your opinion,
What it the likelihood that the stories in this article are mostly true?
What it the likelihood that the Taliban will do better than the Americans and Afghan guards at treating their prisoners humanely?
I think the Taliban will initially do better that the Americans did, but as time goes on, and as the heady intoxication of victory and idealism fade, the Taliban will have brutality in their prisons. It probably won't be as bad for their civilians in prison, because they aren't an enemy. I expect the Taliban to be just as brutal when they have an enemy in their prisons.
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Re: Torture in Afghan Prisons
I'm hesitant to believe any news anymore. Talking to people at ground level personally is much more reliable.
One of my ex-military friends (England) said he was never really near the front lines of war but was set way back in delivering goods only. He told me that had strict orders for routes to take, distances to keep in their conveys, orders to shoot anyone who pointed anything at them. He said they would drive through towns on delivery runs where innocent civilians were and his comrades would hold out money coaxing children to come near and then around a turn they would throw the money into the middle of the street behind them - when the rest of the convey would turn the corner they would running over children and laugh about it... Is it any wonder the presence of foreign troops causes more war with stuff like this going on but is never reported?!
Ministering to other war vets I can say that much more and much more worse happens and that it is a representative of what Western culture is to these other nations who believe the United States of America is a Christian nation. We would do well to understand how supporting the systems of Western culture really have a poor effect on winning souls.
One of my ex-military friends (England) said he was never really near the front lines of war but was set way back in delivering goods only. He told me that had strict orders for routes to take, distances to keep in their conveys, orders to shoot anyone who pointed anything at them. He said they would drive through towns on delivery runs where innocent civilians were and his comrades would hold out money coaxing children to come near and then around a turn they would throw the money into the middle of the street behind them - when the rest of the convey would turn the corner they would running over children and laugh about it... Is it any wonder the presence of foreign troops causes more war with stuff like this going on but is never reported?!
Ministering to other war vets I can say that much more and much more worse happens and that it is a representative of what Western culture is to these other nations who believe the United States of America is a Christian nation. We would do well to understand how supporting the systems of Western culture really have a poor effect on winning souls.
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Re: Torture in Afghan Prisons
Some of what I know from the military would surprise the people here... We regularly pay off the media to not release things.Wade wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:35 pm I'm hesitant to believe any news anymore. Talking to people at ground level personally is much more reliable.
One of my ex-military friends (England) said he was never really near the front lines of war but was set way back in delivering goods only. He told me that had strict orders for routes to take, distances to keep in their conveys, orders to shoot anyone who pointed anything at them. He said they would drive through towns on delivery runs where innocent civilians were and his comrades would hold out money coaxing children to come near and then around a turn they would throw the money into the middle of the street behind them - when the rest of the convey would turn the corner they would running over children and laugh about it... Is it any wonder the presence of foreign troops causes more war with stuff like this going on but is never reported?!
Ministering to other war vets I can say that much more and much more worse happens and that it is a representative of what Western culture is to these other nations who believe the United States of America is a Christian nation. We would do well to understand how supporting the systems of Western culture really have a poor effect on winning souls.
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