Why didn't the Scriptures warn us about those things but quite strongly warn us about wealth?
Scripture does warn us about those things in many ways- look at communist countries that do not allow Christian’s worship? When Russia turned communist look how many millions of Christians were killed. China? Just look at the harm socialism has caused in other countries.
Naturally warnings of Islam & Sharia law were not specifically warned about in the Bible as it didn’t exist yet but certainly there are warnings of false religion and heresy and also against what Sharia law enforces.
Warnings of wealth as of what it “can” but not necessarily do.
this was obviously the cause.
Please present verses to support a specific government or economic model.
Monarchy, Democracy, Dictatorship, Communism, so on
I'm only familiar with Capitalism and Socialism so there might be others. Please define any other system if you argue from Scripture for it.
Please limit it to posting your views and not arguing on it. Views have to have verse references to support.
Seriously?
Communism is atheism. How many Scriptures do you need to support not favoring atheism?
Islam is a false religion. Terrorism. Killing Christians. How many Scriptures do you need to convince you that there’s reason to not want it to dominate a country?
Socialism vs freedom not necessarily capitalism.
I’d need time to work on “that” concern which I may or may not feel is a worthy use of time. Younger people in politics and liberals are slowly going that direction
Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2026 9:42 am
Islam is a false religion. Terrorism. Killing Christians. How many Scriptures do you need to convince you that there’s reason to not want it to dominate a country?
I agree that Islam is false because I believe Christianity is true.
But at times, each of these religions killed people of other religions, sometimes doing things that qualify as terrorism. Christianity during the Crusades or under Constantine was clearly guilty of this. Mennonites in the 1500s were killed by other Christians who were guilty of this.
So I like to keep the sword out of the hand of religion. I prefer governments that let us practice our faiths freely.
1 x
1. Are we discussing the topic? Good.
2. Are we going around and around in a fight? Let's stop doing that.
3. Is there some serious wrongdoing or relational injury? Let's address that, probably not in public and certainly not for show.
Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2026 9:42 am
Islam is a false religion. Terrorism. Killing Christians. How many Scriptures do you need to convince you that there’s reason to not want it to dominate a country?
I agree that Islam is false because I believe Christianity is true.
But at times, each of these religions killed people of other religions, sometimes doing things that qualify as terrorism. Christianity during the Crusades or under Constantine was clearly guilty of this. Mennonites in the 1500s were killed by other Christians who were guilty of this.
So I like to keep the sword out of the hand of religion. I prefer governments that let us practice our faiths freely.
Which is why I’m not for the spread of Islam, as you know they are not opposed to killing Christian’s but even Sharia law should be outlawed here but it is spreading.
Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2026 2:22 pm
... even Sharia law should be outlawed here but it is spreading.
What does that mean, that sharia is enforced in the US? Where?
Recently Governor DeSantis of FL signed legislation banning Sharia law from FL. Reason being there is an attempt by certain Muslim groups in America to practice it such as in TX
Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2026 2:22 pm
... even Sharia law should be outlawed here but it is spreading.
What does that mean, that sharia is enforced in the US? Where?
Recently Governor DeSantis of FL signed legislation banning Sharia law from FL. Reason being there is an attempt by certain Muslim groups in America to practice it such as in TX
I'm at a loss for words... What does a bill such the Florida example accomplish? I suppose one could also ban Russian law, Confucian law or English law but how does that impact the legal rights and privileges of the people of Florida, what is one thing that now becomes legal or illegal since the passage of this bill?
barnhart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2026 8:18 pm
What does that mean, that sharia is enforced in the US? Where?
Recently Governor DeSantis of FL signed legislation banning Sharia law from FL. Reason being there is an attempt by certain Muslim groups in America to practice it such as in TX
I'm at a loss for words... What does a bill such the Florida example accomplish? I suppose one could also ban Russian law, Confucian law or English law but how does that impact the legal rights and privileges of the people of Florida, what is one thing that now becomes legal or illegal since the passage of this bill?
There is a pastor (you know who I mean, in Sugarcreek) that suggested we look into how much Islam is trying to infiltrate our country. It is happening slowly but there are other countries that are now “sorry” for not seeing the writing on the wall. Having listened to former radicals that converted, I’m going back at least 20 years to hearing them explain what Islam taught them- they felt it necessary to open the eyes of American Christians listening to their testimony.
There are many things happening in America I never thought would- but Sharia law is something that is & will be pushed if you get enough of s population that can vote for it or politicians. Governor DeSantis is not ignorant to this, thus the legislation.
Scripture does warn us about those things in many ways- look at communist countries that do not allow Christian’s worship? When Russia turned communist look how many millions of Christians were killed. China? Just look at the harm socialism has caused in other countries.
Naturally warnings of Islam & Sharia law were not specifically warned about in the Bible as it didn’t exist yet but certainly there are warnings of false religion and heresy and also against what Sharia law enforces.
Warnings of wealth as of what it “can” but not necessarily do.
this was obviously the cause.
Please present verses to support a specific government or economic model.
Monarchy, Democracy, Dictatorship, Communism, so on
I'm only familiar with Capitalism and Socialism so there might be others. Please define any other system if you argue from Scripture for it.
Please limit it to posting your views and not arguing on it. Views have to have verse references to support.
Seriously?
Communism is atheism. How many Scriptures do you need to support not favoring atheism?
Mao Tse 50 million dead
Stalin 34 million dead
Hitler 17 million dead
Lenin 4 million dead
Pol Pot 2 million dead
Kim 11 Sung 2 million dead
It basically says that ShariaLaw cannot compete against or supersede the laws of the United States. I think this whole thing started out in Michigan where the Muslims tried to pawn off their law that said honor killings aren’t murder and that homosexuals can be killed and not have it called murder.
I heard someone call it a silent invasion where American values and laws are being undermined and replaced by Muslim values and laws. Personally I think we should be concerned about that and not just because we won’t be able to eat ham anymore. If your son or daughter got involved with a Muslim they fall under sharia and can be killed if they break a sharia law.
Muslims believe their law is superior and that killing Christians, honor killings and killing anyone who disagrees with them is allowed. Banning Sharia Law makes it clear that it cannot be used as an excuse for murder.
Recently Governor DeSantis of FL signed legislation banning Sharia law from FL. Reason being there is an attempt by certain Muslim groups in America to practice it such as in TX
I'm at a loss for words... What does a bill such the Florida example accomplish? I suppose one could also ban Russian law, Confucian law or English law but how does that impact the legal rights and privileges of the people of Florida, what is one thing that now becomes legal or illegal since the passage of this bill?
There is a pastor (you know who I mean, in Sugarcreek) that suggested we look into how much Islam is trying to infiltrate our country. It is happening slowly but there are other countries that are now “sorry” for not seeing the writing on the wall. Having listened to former radicals that converted, I’m going back at least 20 years to hearing them explain what Islam taught them- they felt it necessary to open the eyes of American Christians listening to their testimony.
There are many things happening in America I never thought would- but Sharia law is something that is & will be pushed if you get enough of s population that can vote for it or politicians. Governor DeSantis is not ignorant to this, thus the legislation.
Last edited by JohnL on Tue Apr 21, 2026 7:40 am, edited 1 time in total.
0 x
Free Will Baptist <-> Anabaptist
”Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.” Robert Martz
Another article. I know the direction Islam is compelled to take the world, heard it from their own mouths. I do not blame a governor for saying “not in my state will you push this”