Demands to Denounce

[Anthony]

Hmm i think i know what you mean then, but I would just say that 100% supporting trump in every politics post, arguing with all the liberals on the site, then getting outraged “people are accusing me of supporting trump “, then someone asks you “ dont you support trump? “, then getting upset at this ‘maoist denounciation tactic’ is ridiculous.

I dont read political subforum as much, but Grace is also another person i have the impression supported trump, but her previous comment talks about her “accused of being a trump supporter”. I think this accusation comes from supporting/defending trump in the politics subforum.

There is also something interesting about being accused of supporting trump is apparently terrible, scandalous accusation… Much to think about. Some CA guilt over participating in politics? Or am i reading too much into this?

[JohnH]

Hmm i think i know what you mean then, but I would just say that 100% supporting trump in every politics post, arguing with all the liberals on the site, then getting outraged “people are accusing me of supporting trump “, then someone asks you “ dont you support trump? “, then getting upset at this ‘maoist denounciation tactic’ is ridiculous.

I dont read political subforum as much, but Grace is also another person i have the impression supported trump, but her previous comment talks about her “accused of being a trump supporter”. I think this accusation comes from supporting/defending trump in the politics subforum.

You haven't really been paying attention to her posts, then, since Grace has stated multiple times she isn't a Trump supporter and has a lot of complaints / reservations about various things about his conduct.

Nonetheless, the leftist faction on this forum demands nothing other than a complete un-personing, and treats any defence of a Trump policy at all as the same as complete and total endorsement of Trump. Hence, those of us who do not consider Trump to be Genghis Khan end up being tarred and feathred as "100% supporting trump in every politics post". I am not aware of a single person who actually fits that description (myself included).

[JohnH]

Far too often, including on this forum, there are demands that someone first denounce a certain political figure before their humanity or right to have an opinion is acknowledged at all. That doesn’t lead to helpful debate.

Oh, you mean like this?

As I asked earlier, did you speak out against the Obama administration doing this?

I haven't asked someone to denounce the Obama adminsitration.

I haven't taken a position that settlement decrees and out of court settlements the federal government makes with it self are necessarily a bad thing or wrong, either. I simply pointed out that it has been happening routinely for a long time, and the Obama administration really kicked this into high gear. I view Trump as simply continuing that.

If there needs to be a political debate about that, we can have that; otherwise, it's quite reasonable to ask if a certain executive-branch tactic is wrong when anyone does it, or only wrong when a certain person does it.

[Grace]

I dont read political subforum as much, but Grace is also another person i have the impression supported trump, but her previous comment talks about her “accused of being a trump supporter”. I think this accusation comes from supporting/defending trump in the politics subforum.

There are some of Trump's policies I do support, but that doesn't mean I support everything he does. This "all or nothing" is a closed-minded mentality. If you agree with some Trump policies, doesn't mean you support him, 100%. And if you don't denounce everything, he does, (and there is plenty that I could denounce about him) you are deemed a supporter. That logic is a bit weird.

[JohnL]

This is why I don’t read the politics forum. It becomes a merry go round of crazy us against them talk.

[Anthony]

Before i posted that I havent looked at Grace’s posts much, I went to her account and the most active subforum she is on is Politics… i skimmed about the last 5 pages of her posts in politics and its all bashing democrats and talking about the good Trump has done…

This shame of accepting a political label is a mystery to me

[Anthony]

This is why I don’t read the politics forum. It becomes a merry go round of crazy us against them talk.

( no politics or ai )

[JohnL]

This is why I don’t read the politics forum. It becomes a merry go round of crazy us against them talk.

( no politics or ai )

Ai is already used to promote politics and such. And the propaganda is propagating exponentially. It’s that 1984 book coming to life. I much rather think for myself and hear the ideas of others who think for themselves.

[JohnH]

Before i posted that I havent looked at Grace’s posts much, I went to her account and the most active subforum she is on is Politics… i skimmed about the last 5 pages of her posts in politics and its all bashing democrats and talking about the good Trump has done…

This shame of accepting a political label is a mystery to me

You have incorrectly described Grace's conduct and position on this forum, then.

I think it's important we speak truthfully about other people on this forum instead of just making stuff up.

[Grace]

Before i posted that I havent looked at Grace’s posts much, I went to her account and the most active subforum she is on is Politics… i skimmed about the last 5 pages of her posts in politics and its all bashing democrats and talking about the good Trump has done…

This shame of accepting a political label is a mystery to me

You have incorrectly described Grace's conduct and position on this forum, then.

I think it's important we speak truthfully about other people on this forum instead of just making stuff up.

Thanks John H. I looked back as well. Out of 5 pages (50 posts), I posted in politics 9 times. It is beyond me why someone would post something that is easily verifiable and can be proven to be untrue.

For clarification, I will always denounce policies that advocate the killing of the unborn. I will denounce taking an evil such as abortion and repackaging it as "reproductive health care". Something Democrats have done.

I will denounce immigration policies that enable sex, human and drug trafficking. I will denounce policies that allows illegal criminals to rape and brutally kill women and children, such as: Rachel Morin, Laken Riley, Jocelyn Nungaray, Kayla Hamilton, Maria Gonzalez, Dacara Thompson, Larisha Sharell Thompson, Melissa Powell, and Tessa Tranchant, to name just a few. I will denounce immigration policies that caused the deaths of 50 people being cooked alive in a trailer, some of them little children.

I will denounce the waste, fraud and abuse that bilked the taxpayers out of billion in Democrat governed states. I will denounce fully intact biological men sharing locker rooms and bathrooms with young women and girls. I will denounce stealing awards and scholarships from young women athletes because some guy claims he is a woman.

If that gives me the label of bashing Democrats, so be it.