I witnessed a similar lack of respect this past Saturday at the changing of the wreath ceremony in Arlington National Cemetery by my Brothers-in-law. When the Military Official announced, “You will show respect. You will remove all headgear. You will place your right hand over your heart. You will remain silent . . .” they did nothing. (I had my MAGA hat removed and my hand over my heart before I was told). The next morning when I asked one of them why they didn’t even make a weak attempt at showing at least a little respect, he muttered he wasn’t sure what they meant, then Mother-in-law said we should have walked away when asked to show respect. Sadly, such lack of respect will not leave a favorable witness for Anabaptists, and even sadder, reproach upon the Christ I hope they are serving.appleman2006 wrote:As I recall, upon hearing the shots I proceeded to kick the foot end of my baby carriage out onto the floor. For a 4 month old infant it was very traumatising. My wife states that she spent the first day of her life watching the funeral proceeds. She dislikes funerals to this day.
November 22, 1963
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Sorry if my attempt at humour showed a lack of respect. Would it help if I told you I spent the better part of a day at the 6th floor museum a few years back and found it both sobering and inspiring? I even stood on the "spot" and observed a moment of silence. Until the light turned green that is. and I was forced back into reality.
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My humor was flaring up as well. I was going to give a fictitious first person account involving fleeing the grassy knoll, but Dr.Wojos post stopped me.appleman2006 wrote:Sorry if my attempt at humour showed a lack of respect. Would it help if I told you I spent the better part of a day at the 6th floor museum a few years back and found it both sobering and inspiring? I even stood on the "spot" and observed a moment of silence. Until the light turned green that is. and I was forced back into reality.
I wasn't nearly born yet.
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Re: November 22, 1963
Seems to me I was in a field behind the house, plowing with a little grey Ferguson tractor when a neighbour walked up to where I was working and told me about it. Even in Canada, people were excited about this event.
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Is it also showing disrespect to stand during the Pledge of Allegiance but not say it or put your hand over your heart?DrWojo wrote:I witnessed a similar lack of respect this past Saturday at the changing of the wreath ceremony in Arlington National Cemetery by my Brothers-in-law. When the Military Official announced, “You will show respect. You will remove all headgear. You will place your right hand over your heart. You will remain silent . . .” they did nothing. (I had my MAGA hat removed and my hand over my heart before I was told). The next morning when I asked one of them why they didn’t even make a weak attempt at showing at least a little respect, he muttered he wasn’t sure what they meant, then Mother-in-law said we should have walked away when asked to show respect. Sadly, such lack of respect will not leave a favorable witness for Anabaptists, and even sadder, reproach upon the Christ I hope they are serving.appleman2006 wrote:As I recall, upon hearing the shots I proceeded to kick the foot end of my baby carriage out onto the floor. For a 4 month old infant it was very traumatising. My wife states that she spent the first day of her life watching the funeral proceeds. She dislikes funerals to this day.
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I must be one of the younger people on MN. I was decades from being born when the assassination happened.
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Re: November 22, 1963
I was in Rome, Italy. I didn't hear about it until the day afterwards.
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Mt 24:35
Proverbs 18:2 A fool does not delight in understanding but only in revealing his own mind.
1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is folly with God
Re: November 22, 1963
My mom was born a little over a month later in 1964 and my dad nearly 3 months later.
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I was probably behind bars at the time - in my crib.
I do remember the assassination of JFK's brother Bobby though.
I do remember the assassination of JFK's brother Bobby though.
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Re: November 22, 1963
I don't know about your brothers-in-law motives Dr. Wojo, but I suspect this type of "disrespect" is what got Shadrach, Mechach and Abednigo thrown into the furnace.Aslanhasheard wrote:Is it also showing disrespect to stand during the Pledge of Allegiance but not say it or put your hand over your heart?DrWojo wrote:I witnessed a similar lack of respect this past Saturday at the changing of the wreath ceremony in Arlington National Cemetery by my Brothers-in-law. When the Military Official announced, “You will show respect. You will remove all headgear. You will place your right hand over your heart. You will remain silent . . .” they did nothing. (I had my MAGA hat removed and my hand over my heart before I was told). The next morning when I asked one of them why they didn’t even make a weak attempt at showing at least a little respect, he muttered he wasn’t sure what they meant, then Mother-in-law said we should have walked away when asked to show respect. Sadly, such lack of respect will not leave a favorable witness for Anabaptists, and even sadder, reproach upon the Christ I hope they are serving.appleman2006 wrote:As I recall, upon hearing the shots I proceeded to kick the foot end of my baby carriage out onto the floor. For a 4 month old infant it was very traumatising. My wife states that she spent the first day of her life watching the funeral proceeds. She dislikes funerals to this day.
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