Flipping the Pyramid

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JohnL
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Flipping the Pyramid

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The food pyramid has been flipped. I guess the scientists from decades ago were wrong.
I remember from ages ago that in school we were taught to eat a balanced diet usually a meat and two vegetables. At the local mom and pop’s you could get a meat and one, meat and two, meat and three, or just three sides. Homemade biscuits, cornbread and homemade gravy were always on the menu.
I don’t think we can entirely blame our foods for the obesity epidemic as the msm calls it. I think we’re less active and not using the calories we’re consuming. I know I’ve gained 13 lbs since my knees started to go out because I’m walking less.
What do y’all think?
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Re: Flipping the Pyramid

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JohnL wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 10:39 am The food pyramid has been flipped. I guess the scientists from decades ago were wrong.
I don't know how these two sentences relate to each other. Are you saying that the government's announcement upends previous science, and the science is no longer valid if the government announces something at odds with science?

I think the claims that are scientifically questionable remain so even if the government declares otherwise. I am thinking particularly about his guidance on saturated fats.

Of course, most of RFK's guidance in this announcement is not questionable. An awful lot of it is based on sound science, and is not terribly controversial.
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Re: Flipping the Pyramid

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I would guess the pyramid is about as good one way as another. In the late 90's when the Adkins no carb diets were the rage, I was starting to think about choosing my diet as an adult. I walked into a store and had to go around a large display of Adkins approved foods but I could see at a glance it was all junk food. I thought about my great grandmother eating bacon most mornings past 100 years of age and about the half of the world population who lives primarily on rice, and it made sense to me to eat moderately of diverse food groups and not worry about it.

Im not a disciple of Nutritionalism, the belief food is best understood and valued by breaking down the constituent ingredients. I wonder if it wouldn't be as useful to classify food according the difficulty of preparing and planning. The less work you put in, the less you should eat...
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Re: Flipping the Pyramid

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barnhart wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 11:30 am I would guess the pyramid is about as good one way as another. In the late 90's when the Adkins no carb diets were the rage, I was starting to think about choosing my diet as an adult. I walked into a store and had to go around a large display of Adkins approved foods but I could see at a glance it was all junk food. I thought about my great grandmother eating bacon most mornings past 100 years of age and about the half of the world population who lives primarily on rice, and it made sense to me to eat moderately of diverse food groups and not worry about it.

Im not a disciple of Nutritionalism, the belief food is best understood and valued by breaking down the constituent ingredients. I wonder if it wouldn't be as useful to classify food according the difficulty of preparing and planning. The less work you put in, the less you should eat...
Takes very little effort to make rice and beans, considerable effort to make a cake. I approve of this diet!
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Re: Flipping the Pyramid

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Soloist wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 12:10 pm Takes very little effort to make rice and beans, considerable effort to make a cake. I approve of this diet!
On the other hand, there's the Lazy Woman's Cake.
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Re: Flipping the Pyramid

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Soloist wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 12:10 pm
barnhart wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 11:30 am I would guess the pyramid is about as good one way as another. In the late 90's when the Adkins no carb diets were the rage, I was starting to think about choosing my diet as an adult. I walked into a store and had to go around a large display of Adkins approved foods but I could see at a glance it was all junk food. I thought about my great grandmother eating bacon most mornings past 100 years of age and about the half of the world population who lives primarily on rice, and it made sense to me to eat moderately of diverse food groups and not worry about it.

Im not a disciple of Nutritionalism, the belief food is best understood and valued by breaking down the constituent ingredients. I wonder if it wouldn't be as useful to classify food according the difficulty of preparing and planning. The less work you put in, the less you should eat...
Takes very little effort to make rice and beans, considerable effort to make a cake. I approve of this diet!
Wife: I have noticed that it takes you zero effort to make a cake and very little effort to claim it as yours (or at least all the edges of it).
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Re: Flipping the Pyramid

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The pyramid hasn't been "flipped". The new artwork depicts a triangle, depicting a variety of foods all considered part of a healthy diet.

That includes a small part of whole grains and other things I'm glad to see back, like whole milk. I think this acknowledges advances in science that tell us the real problem is ultra-processed foods.
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Re: Flipping the Pyramid

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Soloist wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 5:24 pm Wife: I have noticed that it takes you zero effort to make a cake and very little effort to claim it as yours (or at least all the edges of it).
But you don’t see all the time I’m distracting the children!
Besides, that was my birthday cake.
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Re: Flipping the Pyramid

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Soloist wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 5:28 pm
Soloist wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 5:24 pm Wife: I have noticed that it takes you zero effort to make a cake and very little effort to claim it as yours (or at least all the edges of it).
But you don’t see all the time I’m distracting the children!
Besides, that was my birthday cake.
Let's not get started on the effort you and I don't see when it comes to raising children ...
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Re: Flipping the Pyramid

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Bootstrap wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 5:56 pm
Soloist wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 5:28 pm
Soloist wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 5:24 pm Wife: I have noticed that it takes you zero effort to make a cake and very little effort to claim it as yours (or at least all the edges of it).
But you don’t see all the time I’m distracting the children!
Besides, that was my birthday cake.
Let's not get started on the effort you and I don't see when it comes to raising children ...
You have no idea.
Children are wonderful, I’m sad we only have 5
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