RZehr wrote:That seems a little off from what I read Wades position to be.
A little?
Well people on here are so concerned about physical health I am trying to get them to wake up about eternity and their error of false accusations. Unfortunately it seems to be influencing them to make up more lies...
RZehr wrote:That seems a little off from what I read Wades position to be.
I am quite confident that vaccinating is the best path to take based on what I understand of the data and also my own observations, so we follow the schedule recommended by our doctor with the exception of postponing a baby's first shots by a month or two sometimes. However I cringe at the harshness of some of J.M. and Josh's posts. I wouldn't quite phrase the opposing view as a competing religion with Christianity, but I think there are reasons for this reaction which lay at the feet of many anti-vax folks, some of whom I consider close friends, who constantly preach their positions on social media for instance. I am very weary of the diatribes from them on the subject and like many people, I suspect, I completely tune them out. Since I believe Christians shouldn't be involved in government, I don't say one way or another whether the government should require vaccines. I think there are good and understandable reasons why they do, but I don't put my personal support behind forcing anything at the point of a gun, which is essentially what is behind all government regulations of any sort. So I will not give either agenda my hearty support.
Think this is harsh? Just wait till a couple of children die or are seriously disabled from one of these preventable diseases, and the “why didn’t you say something” starts. I would rather be accused of being harsh than to have the preventable deaths of children on my mind. Unlike the antivaxers, I can’t run and hide.
RZehr wrote:That seems a little off from what I read Wades position to be.
I am quite confident that vaccinating is the best path to take based on what I understand of the data and also my own observations, so we follow the schedule recommended by our doctor with the exception of postponing a baby's first shots by a month or two sometimes. However I cringe at the harshness of some of J.M. and Josh's posts. I wouldn't quite phrase the opposing view as a competing religion with Christianity, but I think there are reasons for this reaction which lay at the feet of many anti-vax folks, some of whom I consider close friends, who constantly preach their positions on social media for instance. I am very weary of the diatribes from them on the subject and like many people, I suspect, I completely tune them out. Since I believe Christians shouldn't be involved in government, I don't say one way or another whether the government should require vaccines. I think there are good and understandable reasons why they do, but I don't put my personal support behind forcing anything at the point of a gun, which is essentially what is behind all government regulations of any sort. So I will not give either agenda my hearty support.
Think this is harsh? Just wait till a couple of children die or are seriously disabled from one of these preventable diseases, and the “why didn’t you say something” starts. I would rather be accused of being harsh than to have the preventable deaths of children on my mind. Unlike the antivaxers, I can’t run and hide.
J.M.
One can be forthright and direct while still using gracious words. I don't think this is quite the either/or situation that you make it out to be.
When I was in 3rd grade in school, there was a measles outbreak. Lots of children got measles and were absent for a week. Nobody died, nobody was harmed or disabled. Everyone came back to school as normal as before.
Earlier we had mumps and chicken pox. Same thing, nobody was harmed.
Are the children dying of these diseases normal healthy children or are the unhealthy to begin with?
Some of my siblings had scarlet fever. And Fifth Disease.
Judas Maccabeus wrote:
Think this is harsh? Just wait till a couple of children die or are seriously disabled from one of these preventable diseases, and the “why didn’t you say something” starts. I would rather be accused of being harsh than to have the preventable deaths of children on my mind. Unlike the antivaxers, I can’t run and hide.
J.M.
When I was in grade school, I had all the required vaccinations, of course, because my parents believed in keeping the law. Still, I came down with mumps, measles, chicken pox, scarlet fever, and whooping cough. After each, I was fine, as were my classmates.
RZehr wrote:That seems a little off from what I read Wades position to be.
A little?
Well people on here are so concerned about physical health I am trying to get them to wake up about eternity and their error of false accusations. Unfortunately it seems to be influencing them to make up more lies...
So. How do you feel about your accusations that doctors take kickbacks from drug companies?
I appreciate that people have noticed that the so called anti-vaccine crowd on Menno isn't promoting a total stance against vaccines and that the harsh tone of the responses have been noticed. Everyone needs to stand before God and be accountable for their choices and their words.
Soloist wrote:I appreciate that people have noticed that the so called anti-vaccine crowd on Menno isn't promoting a total stance against vaccines and that the harsh tone of the responses have been noticed. Everyone needs to stand before God and be accountable for their choices and their words.
Is there some moral principle that we should dance around the issues and avoid conflict when there are groups spurning gross falsehood, like vaccine denialists do?
This is not an issue where all points of view are valid. It’s more comparable to flat earthers.
Soloist wrote:I appreciate that people have noticed that the so called anti-vaccine crowd on Menno isn't promoting a total stance against vaccines and that the harsh tone of the responses have been noticed. Everyone needs to stand before God and be accountable for their choices and their words.
Is there some moral principle that we should dance around the issues and avoid conflict when there are groups spurning gross falsehood, like vaccine denialists do?
This is not an issue where all points of view are valid. It’s more comparable to flat earthers.
I was actually thinking of post-modernism writ large. If I am correct in this, it really IS a religion.
