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Sometime as a teen, i don’t remember when, i remember 13 was a lifetme away from 17-18-19, somehow, i saw an Igmar Bergman film that rattled me then, and still does, decades later. Even as a young child, i knew life could be hard. But, this movie put the unthinkable in front of me. In primitive B+W TV. i just rewatched it. There was lots i’d forgotten.

i’m pretty sure my parents wouldn’t have wanted me to view it.
It might have aired at some late night hour? i don’t remember. Before any sort of ratings. i’ve read it was controversial.

The brutality of the 1200’s Sweden exists today.
The Iryna Z murder is plainly recorded in real time. No acting involved. i see no difference at all.

When it happens, it happens much like it did for Iryna, and so many others, her precious life was over so quickly.
At the whim of a coward.

i’m not going to add the movie here, but the description. The movie can be found.
i see no difference in these sins+crimes, from 1200’s, and earlier, to today. Vulgar brutality.

Feature Film, 1960
The Virgin Spring
An austere study of rape, evil and death, based on a 13th century folksong.
https://www.ingmarbergman.se/en/product ... gin-spring
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“The Virgin Spring (Swedish: Jungfrukällan) is a 1960 Swedish film directed by Ingmar Bergman. Set in medieval Sweden, it is a tale about a father's merciless response to the rape and murder of his young daughter. The story was adapted by screenwriter Ulla Isaksson from a 13th-century Swedish ballad, "Töres döttrar i Wänge" ("Töre's daughters in Vänge"). Bergman researched the legend of Per Töre with an eye to an adaptation, considering an opera before deciding on a film version. Given criticism of the historical accuracy of his 1957 film The Seventh Seal, he also invited Isaksson to write the screenplay. Other influences included the 1950 Japanese film Rashomon. Max von Sydow played Töre.

Isaksson and Bergman explored a number of themes in The Virgin Spring, questioning morals, vengeance, and religious beliefs. The rape scene was also subject to controversy and censorship in screenings in the United States.

The film won the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film at the 1961 Academy Awards and other honours. It was also the basis for the 1972 exploitation horror film The Last House on the Left.

Plot:
In medieval Sweden, prosperous Christian Per Töre sends his daughter, Karin, to take candles to the church, a day's journey away. Karin is accompanied by servant Ingeri, pregnant with an out-of-wedlock child, who secretly worships the Norse deity Odin. Along their way through the forest on horseback, Ingeri becomes frightened when they come to a stream-side mill and admonishes Karin, but Karin chooses to proceed on her own, leaving Ingeri at the mill.

Ingeri encounters a one-eyed man at the stream-side mill. When Ingeri asks about his name he enigmatically responds he has none "in these days". The man tells Ingeri that he can see and hear things others can not. When the man makes sexual advances towards her and promises her power, Ingeri flees in terror. Meanwhile, Karin meets three herdsmen, two men and a boy, and invites them to eat her lunch with her. Eventually, the two older men rape and murder Karin. Ingeri, after having caught up to the group, witnesses the whole ordeal hidden from a distance. The two older men then prepare to leave the scene with Karin's clothing. The younger boy is left with the body, but he takes the situation poorly, and is wracked with guilt. He even tries to bury the body by sprinkling dirt but stops midway, and runs along with the older men.

The herders then, unknowingly, seek shelter at the home of the murdered girl. During the night, one of the goat herders offers to sell Karin's clothes to her mother, and she suspects the worst. After they fall asleep, the mother locks the trio in the dining chamber and reveals her suspicions to Töre. Töre prepares to discover the truth about the situation and encounters Ingeri, who has also returned. She breaks down in front of Töre and tells him about the rape and murder. She confesses that she secretly wished for Karin's death out of jealousy. In a fit of rage, Töre decides to murder the herdsmen at the crack of dawn. He stabs one of the older men to death with a butcher knife and throws the other into the fire. He kills the boy too, lifting and hurling him against the wall, while his wife watches horrified.

Soon after, Karin's parents, along with the members of their household, set out to find their daughter's body with Ingeri leading the way. Töre breaks down on seeing Karin's body and calls upon God. He vows that, although he cannot understand why God would allow such a thing to happen, he will build a church at the site of his daughter's death. As her parents lift Karin's body from the ground, a spring emerges from the spot where her head rested. Ingeri proceeds to wash herself with the water while Karin's mother cleans the dirt from her daughter's face.”

^^This was set before Anabaptists.
The setting and actng are compelling (to me). Somehow, everyone living today has some shared ancient history somewhere that included a lot of harshness and brutality. Even if all one’s ancestry is nothing but royalty on any continent. Unlikely as that is.

So much has changed. So much hasn’t changed.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ingmar-Bergman
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Sound Transit increases security presence to combat safety concerns
Sound Transit’s annual safety report shows how regional crime trends are impacting public transportation systems.

SEATTLE — In Sound Transit’s annual safety report, the agency documented more than 180 incidents of assault against transit workers on Link light rail in 2024 alone. The number of incidents reflects new federal rules that now classify threats against transit workers as assault, regardless of injury.
The report shows how regional crime trends are impacting public transportation systems serving over 132,000 passengers each weekday.
The transit agency is responding to these challenges by boosting its security presence on trains. Sound Transit aims to place officers aboard 25% of all in-service trains as part of its enhanced safety strategy.
Ken Price, vice president of Amalgamated Transit Union Local 587, which represents Sound Transit workers, acknowledged the complexity of the challenges staff encounter daily.
"At Sound Transit, we have transit operators that drive some of their busses. We have the train operators. We have the custodians. We have supervisors," Price said. "We're not trained to handle some of these complex issues."
Despite the documented rise in worker-targeted incidents, some regular passengers report feeling relatively safe using the system. Cameron Clapper, who rides Sound Transit "for work every Monday, Wednesday, Friday," described his experience as "pretty safe most of the time."
Another frequent rider, Darrell Wrenn, who takes "the train about four or five days a week," said he has never personally experienced an issue, though he acknowledged potential underlying concerns.
"Do I think there's tendencies there? There is that undercurrent, absolutely," Wrenn said.
Sound Transit has implemented outreach efforts to address the root causes of safety issues, making more than 8,000 contacts with people in need last year. The agency maintains an outreach team that provides services including de-escalation, crisis prevention and behavioral health support.
The union welcomed Sound Transit's commitment to increased security presence but emphasized the need for comprehensive coverage.
"We thank Sound Transit for that commitment. We want to make sure that's spread across the system. We really want to make sure that we have the night work covered," Price said. "We are committed to making sure everybody has safe transit. It's for everybody. It's not just for us, but it's the community.”
https://www.king5.com/article/news/loca ... 2abf3a9467
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https://www.soundtransit.org/ride-with- ... y-security


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temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 8:40 pm Sound Transit increases security presence to combat safety concerns
The other thing they have to deal with is elderly women who drive onto the light rail tracks and end up at a station 35 feet above grade.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... -platform/
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ohio jones wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 9:58 pm
temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 8:40 pm Sound Transit increases security presence to combat safety concerns
The other thing they have to deal with is elderly women who drive onto the light rail tracks and end up at a station 35 feet above grade.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... -platform/
It is not the first time someone has turned when GPS said turn, and wound up on Railroad tracks.
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Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 10:14 pm
ohio jones wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 9:58 pm
temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 8:40 pm Sound Transit increases security presence to combat safety concerns
The other thing they have to deal with is elderly women who drive onto the light rail tracks and end up at a station 35 feet above grade.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... -platform/
It is not the first time someone has turned when GPS said turn, and wound up on Railroad tracks.
i haven’t noticed reports of GPS problems recently, for awhile, there were quite a few, some true disasters with fatalities.
When my grdaughter was younger, she would occasionally become quite upset with me if i didn’t follow GPS directions precisely. :lol:
Once, we would have turned straight into a chain link fence with BUSY I-90 on the other side! Oddly, our destination was easily seen just ahead on our right side.

GPS can be wrong. Even obviously wrong. Situational awareness remains mandatory.

i’m glad we had those experiences now that she’s driving.
Thankfully, ours were all funny and noticed before any incident happened.
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temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2026 11:47 pm i’m glad we had those experiences now that she’s driving.
Thankfully, ours were all funny and noticed before any incident happened.
Yeah, driving comes with its own risks.
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Thursday. The countdown.

Last night i had a good talk with my grdaughter, she’s in great spirits, they’re sleeping in the new place, major downsizing, but lots of positives. It’s a familiar place, closer to work (esp for her mother). i hope it works out. Downsizing is hard. Thankfully, there’s time, it doesn’t have to be in a mad rush. (As it has been in the past.)

i asked about driving to the internship? No.
Traffic AND no parking. Esp no parking. She’s spoken with them about it.

So, no to driving, and, no to the bus.
The bus service routes+times she+i experienced were great. Closer to Seattle and in Seattle, has a bad reputation.

To be discussed:
mom driving. she works, but her office is accomodating.
uber. expensive. not without risk, esp for a young one.
commuting with a coworker. that would rate as a miracle.
body guard-chaperone. my personal fav. i can’t see it happening. $$$$

To clarify.
This isn’t a family feud of any description.
My grdaughter isn’t headstrong or rebellious, she’s thoughtful and careful. Reliable.

Remembering the Igmar Bergman film portaying 1200’s rural Sweden, reminded me, today’s sins+crimes began in The Garden.
SIN is the culprit. How unchanged SIN is over millennia is astonishing.

The mother portayed in the film is no different from grieving mothers today.

Somehow, while we enjoy modern conveniences and advancements, there needs to be a healthy dose of recognition that the
ANCIENT VULGAR BRUTALITIES exist right alongside the marvels. It’s not easy to accept the harsh reality.

July 16 / CBS / Jennifer Bos / -10min
“Antioch, Illinois, mother Jennifer Bos voiced her support for Todd Blanche at his confirmation hearing to become attorney general. Bos advocates for stricter immigration policy after her daughter was allegedly murdered by an illegal immigrant.”


PREVENTION. please.
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Young people like danger. I mean, I used to go to a hot dog shop in Anacostia in 2001.
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JohnH wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2026 12:37 pm Young people like danger. I mean, I used to go to a hot dog shop in Anacostia in 2001.
To some extent, true, for some, very true. Historically, esp true for boys.
When our son turned 15, i said, “Happy Birthday. Now we’ll put you in a locked room until you’re 25.” :shock:
Only half joking. :-| He wasn’t a general risk-taker.

Today, i’m sensing young white females are being specially targeted, to repeat, not motivated by theft or rape.
Hate has been fueled from numerous sources, these girls are just the easiest targets imagineable.
With little or no penalty.

As Jennifer Bos describes. Her daughter’s killer didn’t miss a day of work at the bakery. Illinois.
About 2 years ago, my cousin’s daughter was killed by a car after getting off a bus. Not suspected to be intentional.
Police allowed her to drive away in the same car, likewise, not missing a day of work. Illinois. Nothing more.
How can this not be manslaughter?

Whatever happened to the sanctity of life? Particularly victims’ lives and lives of their loved ones.

Perps have outstanding representation.
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Monday July 20. Day 1.

Not too much for the vulnerable, unarmed, trusting. Deterrence. Prevention.
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