240V AC questions ...

[violet]

and now you can also go fishing and cook fish for wife who is very happy you are not dead. win, win

[Bootstrap]

and now you can also go fishing and cook fish for wife who is very happy you are not dead. win, win

That's funny!

I do find my life goes better when I don't do things that make my wife nervous. Which is why I did not buy that motorcycle...

FWIW, the new cooktop works MUCH better than the old one. Looks nicer, too.

[Wade]

Moral of the story: Us men can think things through, have all kinds of good ideas that may even be more logical then our wife's, but in the end her ideas will probably just work out better anyway...

[Judas Maccabeus]

and now you can also go fishing and cook fish for wife who is very happy you are not dead. win, win

That's funny!

I do find my life goes better when I don't do things that make my wife nervous. Which is why I did not buy that motorcycle...

FWIW, the new cooktop works MUCH better than the old one. Looks nicer, too.

Induction cooktop?

J.M.

[Bootstrap]

Induction cooktop?

No, I have inherited cast iron skillets and pots from my family and I love to cook with them, I just don't want to buy a bunch of new-fangled pots and such.

It's this model:

GE JP5030DJBB - 30 in. Radiant Electric Cooktop in Black with 4 Elements including Power Boil Element

[Judas Maccabeus]

Induction cooktop?

No, I have inherited cast iron skillets and pots from my family and I love to cook with them, I just don't want to buy a bunch of new-fangled pots and such.

It's this model:

GE JP5030DJBB - 30 in. Radiant Electric Cooktop in Black with 4 Elements including Power Boil Element

Nice. Wish i had that kind of flexibility.

J.M.

[ohio jones]

Electrician shows up. Waylon, about 30 years old, smells like cigarettes, huge smile, engaging, strong twang, smart guy. Knows a LOT about fishing and how to catch various kinds of catfish and where to find them locally, happy to tell you all about it as he works. Looks at the circuit box. Walks over to the stove box, pulls out the manual, reads it slowly. Looks up at me and says, you know, you can also run this on a 30 amp circuit ...

Whoa there, Waylon. Now that we know the model number and can look at the manual for ourselves, we see that you can indeed use a 30A breaker on a 208V circuit which would come from a 120/208V three phase panel. For a 240V circuit, which is what you have on a typical 120/240V single phase residential service, the maximum current draw is 30.4A, which would overload a 30A breaker.

In practical terms, it's perfectly safe if you never use all four elements at the same time. But just in case you forget that on Thanksgiving morning, and in consideration of future owners if you sell the house, upgrading the circuit would be the right thing to do.

[Judas Maccabeus]

Electrician shows up. Waylon, about 30 years old, smells like cigarettes, huge smile, engaging, strong twang, smart guy. Knows a LOT about fishing and how to catch various kinds of catfish and where to find them locally, happy to tell you all about it as he works. Looks at the circuit box. Walks over to the stove box, pulls out the manual, reads it slowly. Looks up at me and says, you know, you can also run this on a 30 amp circuit ...

Whoa there, Waylon. Now that we know the model number and can look at the manual for ourselves, we see that you can indeed use a 30A breaker on a 208V circuit which would come from a 120/208V three phase panel. For a 240V circuit, which is what you have on a typical 120/240V single phase residential service, the maximum current draw is 30.4A, which would overload a 30A breaker.

In practical terms, it's perfectly safe if you never use all four elements at the same time. But just in case you forget that on Thanksgiving morning, and in consideration of future owners if you sell the house, upgrading the circuit would be the right thing to do.

You think they are that precise? Most modern breakers are of the delay trip type. Will take a load in excess of 30 for a brief period.

Of course the electrician likely knows that

[Bootstrap]

OK, now I'm back to not knowing.

If I need a 40 amp circuit, at least I can have the satisfaction of believing I read the manual correctly the first time. If I can get away with a 30 amp circuit, I can have the satisfaction of thinking my money was well spent and being happy with Waylon.

Which form of satisfaction should I want? Is OJ right or is JM right?

[AnthonyMartin]

OK, now I'm back to not knowing.

If I need a 40 amp circuit, at least I can have the satisfaction of believing I read the manual correctly the first time. If I can get away with a 30 amp circuit, I can have the satisfaction of thinking my money was well spent and being happy with Waylon.

Which form of satisfaction should I want? Is OJ right or is JM right?

Most cook tops are fine with 30 amp. The only danger would be if you didn't have heavy enough wire on a higher level circuit. For instance, if you put a 40amp breaker in without upgrading the wiring. The worst that could happen with a 30amp for you now is that the breaker might flip leaving your food uncooked.