Ban political talk in public school, K-12?

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JimFoxvog

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Josh wrote:But there isn’t a widespread problem with teachers being biased towards being Republicans and recruiting students for help with political activity. There is a definite problem with doing so for Democrats.
You might be right. My older son was homeschooled through high school, but my younger one chose to do the last couple years at the public school. What I heard was the teachers supporting the right-wing ideas. I have no evidence of how widespread this is, just one person's story in one location. Do you know of any survey or studies that support your statement or is it just a few other people's stories that you've heard?
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appleman2006

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JimFoxvog wrote:
Josh wrote:But there isn’t a widespread problem with teachers being biased towards being Republicans and recruiting students for help with political activity. There is a definite problem with doing so for Democrats.
You might be right. My older son was homeschooled through high school, but my younger one chose to do the last couple years at the public school. What I heard was the teachers supporting the right-wing ideas. I have no evidence of how widespread this is, just one person's story in one location. Do you know of any survey or studies that support your statement or is it just a few other people's stories that you've heard?
I am guessing there are areas in the US where you might still get a strong right wing teaching program in some schools. In Canada. Not so much. The whole system is so skewed to the left that someone even middle of the road in your area would be considered alt right up here. That does not mean that there are not individual closet right wing teachers but in most cases they would be totally scared to teach their viewpoint. Many formerly understood basic Christian beliefs that our grandparents would of almost totally agreed on would now be grounds for dismissal if taught in the public school system.
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Valerie

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appleman2006 wrote:
JimFoxvog wrote:
Josh wrote:But there isn’t a widespread problem with teachers being biased towards being Republicans and recruiting students for help with political activity. There is a definite problem with doing so for Democrats.
You might be right. My older son was homeschooled through high school, but my younger one chose to do the last couple years at the public school. What I heard was the teachers supporting the right-wing ideas. I have no evidence of how widespread this is, just one person's story in one location. Do you know of any survey or studies that support your statement or is it just a few other people's stories that you've heard?
I am guessing there are areas in the US where you might still get a strong right wing teaching program in some schools. In Canada. Not so much. The whole system is so skewed to the left that someone even middle of the road in your area would be considered alt right up here. That does not mean that there are not individual closet right wing teachers but in most cases they would be totally scared to teach their viewpoint. Many formerly understood basic Christian beliefs that our grandparents would of almost totally agreed on would now be grounds for dismissal if taught in the public school system.
Country by country, the great falling away is upon us- when you see these things happen, look up, your/our Redemption draweth nigh- we need to strengthen what remains and encourage one another in the faith
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Josh

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Valerie wrote:Country by country, the great falling away is upon us- when you see these things happen, look up, your/our Redemption draweth nigh- we need to strengthen what remains and encourage one another in the faith
Whilst I'm fairly anti-leftist, I would argue that schools having a left wing bias is no more of a "great falling away" than a right-wing bias.
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Valerie

Re: Ban political talk in public school, K-12?

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Josh wrote:
Valerie wrote:Country by country, the great falling away is upon us- when you see these things happen, look up, your/our Redemption draweth nigh- we need to strengthen what remains and encourage one another in the faith
Whilst I'm fairly anti-leftist, I would argue that schools having a left wing bias is no more of a "great falling away" than a right-wing bias.
I really was replying more to what appleman was conveying
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Bootstrap

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Post by Bootstrap »

As I understand it, teachers cannot legally promote a political agenda in K-12 schools in the United States. If a teacher in your school is doing that, you don't need a new law, that's current law.

But I think it is important for schools to provide a setting for students to discuss a variety of views on controversial subjects so they can learn how to think through these issues and talk them out with people who see things differently. I largely agree with the authors of this book.

In a democracy, we need people who are educated enough to discuss and think through the issues we vote on. Even in a private religious school, there are things that can and should be debated without questioning our world view.
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