"Elites" - who are they and why do they dislike Pres. Trump?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:19 pm
The idea of "elites" came up quite a bit in our Trump Poll Discussion. Here is a thread to discuss "elites" and their perspectives.
What makes them elite? What defines them as elite?
Why don't they like Trump?
Are there conservative elites as well as liberal elites?
Are their opinions valid? Why or why not?
Who are the elites within Conservative Anabaptism?
Josh wrote:He does continue to be very unpopular with the intellectual elite and the ultra-wealthy.
Josh wrote:He offends the sensibilities of those with an elite mindset, and elites exist amongst Anabaptists too.
Peter G wrote:A position's validity is not determined by the identity of those who hold it.
Josh wrote:Sure, but amongst people who aren’t in the upper echelons of society, Trump and his positions are a lot more “valid”.
Bootstrap wrote:Class warfare, anyone?
"I resent people like you" is a bad argument no matter who you are saying it to. Not just a bad logical argument, it's the kind of argument that divides us, and people don't think clearly when their resentment is stoked up. And it's one of Trump's main arguments: those people I want you to hate, let me tell you how much they look down on you, but I'm the one who loves you, so let's resent them together, I will be your voice. Hostile division is an essential part of his message, if you take his tweets and many of his speeches and rewrite them without this, there's not much left.
Bootstrap wrote:Trump, of course, is an elite who inherited substantial wealth, which he loves to display conspicuously, and brags about going to the best colleges and being in the upper echelons of society, the only person I know of who has a solid gold toilet and an apartment in New York decorated to look like a French king's palace. Would he have been elected if he couldn't say that he was in the upper echelons of society? And I worry that what he has done so far helps people like him much more than people who voted for him.
Hillperson wrote:I think what Josh means about elites having a problem with Trump is just that.... Most people except the press and those who are part of the elite just can not admit that his policies have been good for America.
So...who are these elites ?Josh wrote:What’s the definition of “immoral or coarse”?
Man’s definition, the elite’s definition, or the working class’s definition... or the Bible’s?
What makes them elite? What defines them as elite?
Why don't they like Trump?
Are there conservative elites as well as liberal elites?
Are their opinions valid? Why or why not?
Who are the elites within Conservative Anabaptism?