Not-so-United Methodists

[Josh]

How did that turn out for the conservatives who decided to stay? I don’t see that being too successful.
I don’t know that keeping control of organizations and real estate is all that crucial in the scheme of history.

I don’t see why we should always just roll over and do whatever the liberals want.

[ken_sylvania]

How did that turn out for the conservatives who decided to stay? I don’t see that being too successful.
I don’t know that keeping control of organizations and real estate is all that crucial in the scheme of history.

I don’t see why we should always just roll over and do whatever the liberals want.

I don't either. Was someone suggesting we should?

Fighting to keep control of real estate and assets doesn't seem like the way of Christ.

[MaxPC]

I assume he's referring to erosion rather than one specific division: 40% of MCUSA membership over the last two decades, with most of those leaving being conservatives, relatively speaking. The liberals "made off with" the denomination by staying put.

Wearing us down with interminable 'dialogue'.

HK, you’ve summed up in one sentence the major tactic of those who want to ignore the Bible and Church teachings.

Well said (from a Catholic who sees the same tactic used by those in the Catholic Church).

[HondurasKeiser]

I assume he's referring to erosion rather than one specific division: 40% of MCUSA membership over the last two decades, with most of those leaving being conservatives, relatively speaking. The liberals "made off with" the denomination by staying put.

Wearing us down with interminable 'dialogue'.

HK, you’ve summed up in one sentence the major tactic of those who want to ignore the Bible and Church teachings.

Well said (from a Catholic who sees the same tactic used by those in the Catholic Church).

With respect to the Catholic Church and the recently convoked Amazon Synod, Tyler Arnold writing at the American Conservative writes:

In the Summa Theologica, St. Thomas Aquinas wrote that natural law, which he defines as a rational creature’s participation in God’s eternal law, is common to all nations. This natural law, he said, is the way by which all men are inclined to act based on their search for the good. Because everyone can reason, all cultures can comprehend and teach some elements of virtue, which allows them to participate in God’s eternal law.

Because every culture will have some participation in the eternal law, Pope St. John Paul II wrote in Fides et Ratio that no culture is at odds with the Gospel, but rather that the Gospel “is a genuine liberation from all the disorders caused by sin” and is “a call to the fullness of truth.” He makes clear that this truth is not understood through dialogue between different cultures, but through the conversion that originates in “the depths of the human soul” when it hears about Christ.

[ohio jones]

With respect to the Catholic Church and the recently convoked Amazon Synod ...

This appears to be a prime example of the commercialization of the religious marketplace; I hope it doesn't kindle a larger movement that would cloud more important issues. Given Jeff's support of same-sex marriage, I assumed he was not Catholic; maybe it's just an affiliate relationship.

[HondurasKeiser]

With respect to the Catholic Church and the recently convoked Amazon Synod ...

This appears to be a prime example of the commercialization of the religious marketplace; I hope it doesn't kindle a larger movement that would cloud more important issues. Given Jeff's support of same-sex marriage, I assumed he was not Catholic; maybe it's just an affiliate relationship.

I’m lost OJ, who is Jeff?

[HondurasKeiser]

With respect to the Catholic Church and the recently convoked Amazon Synod ...

This appears to be a prime example of the commercialization of the religious marketplace; I hope it doesn't kindle a larger movement that would cloud more important issues. Given Jeff's support of same-sex marriage, I assumed he was not Catholic; maybe it's just an affiliate relationship.

I’m lost OJ, who is Jeff?

Never mind...I see what you did there. I always take you too literally at first-read.

[temporal1]

This appears to be a prime example of the commercialization of the religious marketplace; I hope it doesn't kindle a larger movement that would cloud more important issues. Given Jeff's support of same-sex marriage, I assumed he was not Catholic; maybe it's just an affiliate relationship.

I’m lost OJ, who is Jeff?

Never mind...I see what you did there. I always take you too literally at first-read.

can you, with confidence, underline e-v-e-r-y punified word in his paragraph?

imagine oj on an architectural committee.
https://www.boredpanda.com/top-33-world ... buildings/

[temporal1]

With respect to the Catholic Church and the recently convoked Amazon Synod ...

This appears to be a prime example of the commercialization of the religious marketplace; I hope it doesn't kindle a larger movement that would cloud more important issues. Given Jeff's support of same-sex marriage, I assumed he was not Catholic; maybe it's just an affiliate relationship.

apt to be friends with Jesuit Fr Martin.

[MaxPC]