Trump Convicted

[Szdfan]

You pointed out Trump and I was just reminding that other presidents practiced this sin "while president" which Trump did not- drag this sin into the White House.

I don't think this is a defense of Trump that makes sense. Trump's sexual assault of E. Jean Carroll isn't any better because he did it before he became President.

[temporal1]

.. and I was just reminding that other presidents practiced this sin "while president"
which Trump did not- drag this sin into the White House.

It’s an important distinction to me. Naturally, biased media ignore it on a grand scale. They are good at manipulation.
Then followed by thousands+thousands of unpaid water carriers.

The elected take oaths “to the people” and elected high office has unique influence on the culture.
Extra privilege = extra responsbility. A number have failed miserably, as you say, IN ACTIVE ELECTED OFFICE.

Even in the private sector, committing sins/crimes ON THE JOB carries greater significance.
It reflects the vast power of media to add words, twist words, omit words. “All in a biased day’s work.”

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Many see most of the (old) complaints as flatly empty+disingenuous -
because they were IGNORED until the presidency became a factor. Before that, DJT was courted.

It’s not new a new phenom. It’s just that the stakes are high.

[temporal1]

i have little idea how much influence DOC RICH has.
i don’t formally follow him, i view some of his videos. i’ve shared a few on forum.
he strikes me as an ordinary guy, with conservative interests. i don’t find that unusual - (views ignored in msm airtime).

i’ve never been to COMPTON CA, i understand it’s a pretty wild place.
i guess this is an example of “people who vote”/plan to vote.

DOC RICH / “They Claim It's Not Happening But Here's Proof!” / -11min


Doc Rich believes he’s a Christian, he’s married with a baby. Yes, that’s a playpen in his background!

[Szdfan]

Why does the cover picture (title card?) of this video look like it was created by AI? Like all the people in this image look like they are denizens of the Uncanny Valley.

[Neto]

So, will Trump and Hunter Biden be cell mates?

[Szdfan]

.. and I was just reminding that other presidents practiced this sin "while president"
which Trump did not- drag this sin into the White House.

It’s an important distinction to me. Naturally, biased media ignore it on a grand scale. They are good at manipulation.
Then followed by thousands+thousands of unpaid water carriers.

The elected take oaths “to the people” and elected high office has unique influence on the culture.
Extra privilege = extra responsbility. A number have failed miserably, as you say, IN ACTIVE ELECTED OFFICE.

Even in the private sector, committing sins/crimes ON THE JOB carries greater significance.
It reflects the vast power of media to add words, twist words, omit words. “All in a biased day’s work.”

- - - - - - -

Many see most of the (old) complaints as flatly empty+disingenuous -
because they were IGNORED until the presidency became a factor. Before that, DJT was courted.

It’s not new a new phenom. It’s just that the stakes are high.

I think this an excuse. I think it's a way to wave away Trump's immoral and corrupt behavior.

People certainly can change, but as Russell Moore pointed out in the piece I posted earlier, Trump has never expressed regret nor repented for his earlier actions. I think Trump was the same person in the White House that was outside of it.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/20 ... moore.html

The former president’s defenders are too smart to believe what some of them imply—that Trump never really knew Stormy Daniels and that he was paying her six figures of hush money to keep her from talking about something that never happened. So what message does it send when—like every other political constituency—we find ways to minimize that by suggesting that the cultural and political stakes are too high to worry about such minor matters as keeping one’s vows or telling the truth?

That’s especially when a figure is held up to the rest of the country as a champion of restoring the country to Christian values—to when “girls were girls and men were men,” as the old sitcom characters Archie and Edith Bunker would sing it. And that’s especially true when Christian leaders hail Trump as a “baby Christian” and he licenses his name to Bibles. For many Americans, the word evangelical now is shorthand for “Trump supporter.” How can we blame them when, in so many arenas of American Christian life, people who deny the Trinity are embraced as Christians, but those who don’t support Trump are ostracized as apostates?

Many will talk about how God uses flawed and imperfect people; that’s true, of course. This is not, though, a Chuck Colson repenting of his sin, taking responsibility for it and pleading for God’s mercy. This is someone who instead now says that he will take revenge on his critics and enemies the moment he is back in office.

What does that say to those who are watching, learning from Trump’s “never admit, never apologize” strategy? It says policy is more important than character. Achievement is more important than integrity. The implication from religious leaders reputedly bearing witness to the God for whom they speak is this: A man is justified by winning alone.

[Szdfan]

So, will Trump and Hunter Biden be cell mates?

There might be more than one prison in America...but considering Trump's experience doing a reality show, it could make some interesting television.

[Ken]

So, will Trump and Hunter Biden be cell mates?

There might be more than one prison in America...but considering Trump's experience doing a reality show, it could make some interesting television.

If either of them get time, one will be in Federal prison, the other in the NY State Penitentiary.

Although I guess Trump's legal saga isn't over. He's indicted in two other Federal courts and also Georgia. So they might well still cross paths.

[Bootstrap]

Donald Trump isn't just Nebuchadnezzar or Cyrus. He's the "Chosen One"

Without that narrative, I don't think Trump would survive this felony conviction. Or the Mueller Report. Or the first impeachment, abusing his power by soliciting foreign interference in the 2020 U.S. presidential election. Or the second impeachment, for inciting January 6th. Or having to shut Trump University because of fraud. Or having to shut the Trump Foundation because of fraud. Or the fraud that landed the Chief Financial Officer of the Trump Corporation in jail. Any one of these things would kill a normal political career. And there are dozens more besides these.

But Trump is a marvelous story-teller, and he has created a predefined narrative that everything else fits into. He is the only one who can fix the problem. The only reason people are going after him is that they are part of some evil scheme that Trump is going to expose. Every piece of evidence is just fake news. No matter how good the evidence looks, they are just out to get him, they are trying to fool you, and their accusations are never, ever to be trusted. It's a witch hunt. It's rigged. The worse the wrongdoing, the stronger the evidence, the more it's just proof that they are out to get him. Anyone who believes the evidence just has "Trump Derangement Syndrome". And if they can get him, they're going to come after you. (Because, of course, you probably sleep with porn stars and disguise hush money payments for campaign purposes too ... I mean, really? Do ANY of these cases involve anything at all where they could come after you or me?)

I don't think Trump's life looks anything like his story. Few people have managed to get away with as much as he has in his life. Few people enjoyed his wealth and privilege. Few people have been able to afford the lawyers he can afford. He has never spent his life generously seeking the good of others. He has never been an idealist fighting for truth and justice. But it's a good story. The testimony in this case tells you a LOT about how he actually lives his life.

The cases that matter more simply won't be tried before the presidential election, Trump was able to drag things out and make that impossible. But there's plenty of evidence in all of these matters. Evidence of Trump's character.

So it's never really about the evidence that Trump did something seriously wrong. It's about the predefined narrative. It's not about who Trump is in real life, it's about the stories he spins about himself. And now Trump's campaign promise is retribution, he is going to get all those people who investigated him. He is going to make the DOJ his personal weapon to reward his friends and punish his enemies. The Republican party is rallying behind that.

I really wish they would find another candidate. I really wish a felony conviction did not become a badge of honor.

[Grace]

So it's never really about the evidence that Trump did something seriously wrong. It's about the predefined narrative. And now Trump's campaign promise is retribution, he is going to get all those people who investigated him. He is going to make the DOJ his personal weapon to reward his friends and punish his enemies. The Republican party is rallying behind that.

That is what the Democrats have been doing since 2016, getting a FISA warrant to spy on his Campaign based on a fake Dossier., the big lie about Trump and Russian collusion, being charged for having classified documents, and Biden getting a pass, just to name a few instance of using government as a personal weapon. If the people who investigated him broke the laws, they need to be held accountable.

And then there is the fact that the main stream media lies about his comments on "retribution".