Israel is Babylon the Great

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Szdfan

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Lex has left one prominent Jew off of his lists...

...Jesus Christ

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Bootstrap

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ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:34 am When a person feels the need to make a disclaimer saying they are not an anti-Semite, it's almost certainly because their words and actions show that they in fact are anti-Semite.
And he clearly gets his understanding of the Revelation from the Web, not by careful, repeated reading, in context.

Doesn't seem to be here to learn from us, though. Think we can reach him?
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Soloist

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Bootstrap wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:25 am
ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:34 am When a person feels the need to make a disclaimer saying they are not an anti-Semite, it's almost certainly because their words and actions show that they in fact are anti-Semite.
And he clearly gets his understanding of the Revelation from the Web, not by careful, repeated reading, in context.

Doesn't seem to be here to learn from us, though. Think we can reach him?
Just another in a long list of misfits who stop in with pet doctrines looking for followers. None of them are interested in examining the Scriptures together.
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Josh

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Lex wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:12 am The top 4 websites worldwide are: 1. Google 2. YouTube 3. Facebook 4. Instagram
Source: https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/
The Owners of Google and YouTube (Alphabet): Larry Page and Sergey Brin, both Jews
The Chairman and CEO of Facebook and Instagram (Meta): Mark Zuckerberg, a Jew

CEO of Disney: Bob Iger, a Jew
Chairman and CEO of BlackRock (the world's largest asset manager): Larry Fink, a Jew
President and CEO of Amazon: Andy Jassy, a Jew
Chairman of Apple: Arthur D. Levinson, a Jew

Jews in the Biden Administration: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/je ... nistration
Jews in the Trump Administration: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/je ... nistration
Jews in the Obama Administration: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/je ... nistration
Jews in the George W. Bush Administration: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/je ... nistration
What does this have to do with Babylon the Great or biblical prophecy?
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Lex wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:12 am The top 4 websites worldwide are: 1. Google 2. YouTube 3. Facebook 4. Instagram
Source: https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/
The Owners of Google and YouTube (Alphabet): Larry Page and Sergey Brin, both Jews
The Chairman and CEO of Facebook and Instagram (Meta): Mark Zuckerberg, a Jew

CEO of Disney: Bob Iger, a Jew
Chairman and CEO of BlackRock (the world's largest asset manager): Larry Fink, a Jew
President and CEO of Amazon: Andy Jassy, a Jew
Chairman of Apple: Arthur D. Levinson, a Jew

Jews in the Biden Administration: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/je ... nistration
Jews in the Trump Administration: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/je ... nistration
Jews in the Obama Administration: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/je ... nistration
Jews in the George W. Bush Administration: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/je ... nistration
The Jews are the smartest people
According to a study performed by Cambridge University called, "From Chance to Choice: Genetic and Justice," Ashkenazi Jews have a median IQ of 117. That’s 10 points higher than the “accepted” IQ of their biggest competition, Northeast Asia, and 20% higher than the global average. The Ashkenazim make up approximately 80% of all Jews.
Source: https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,734 ... 51,00.html

Of the 965 individual recipients of the Nobel Prize and the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences between 1901 and 2023, at least 214 have been Jews or people with at least one Jewish parent, representing 22% of all recipients. Jews comprise only 0.2% of the world's population, meaning their share of winners is 110 times their proportion of the world's population.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_J ... _laureates

The Jews created nuclear weaponry, which is probably the most complex invention of mankind.
Source: https://jewishcontributions.com/infotab ... r-weapons/
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Josh

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What does this have to do with Babylon the Great or biblical prophecy?
The Jews created nuclear weaponry, which is probably the most complex invention of mankind.
This isn’t a correct statement, anymore than “Hungarians created nuclear weaponry” would be. I’m Hungarian. But my family had nothing to do with creating nuclear weapons.

A correct statement would be “Some of the prominent scientists who helped create nuclear weaponry were Jewish,” but if you make such a statement, perhaps it would be pertinent to list every other outsized ethnic group too. Hungarians, white people, men…
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Soloist

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Josh wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:46 am What does this have to do with Babylon the Great or biblical prophecy?
The Jews created nuclear weaponry, which is probably the most complex invention of mankind.
This isn’t a correct statement, anymore than “Hungarians created nuclear weaponry” would be. I’m Hungarian. But my family had nothing to do with creating nuclear weapons.

A correct statement would be “Some of the prominent scientists who helped create nuclear weaponry were Jewish,” but if you make such a statement, perhaps it would be pertinent to list every other outsized ethnic group too. Hungarians, white people, men…
Also, the nuclear bomb, while complex is certainly not the most complex invention given a physics student had compiled a design that would work and had them confiscated https://www.iflscience.com/the-fbi-once ... bomb-62282
and https://harpers.org/archive/1998/11/the ... boy-scout/

Both fascinating stories but certainly nuclear devices are not the most complex. I would say... not even the most complex weapon of war.
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Josh wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:20 am What does this have to do with Babylon the Great or biblical prophecy?
Because of Proof 3.
Since Babylon the Great rules the world, she must be controlling the most powerful positions.
She is called the Great, because she has the greatest power in this world. She is the Queen.
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RZehr

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Lex wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:06 pm
Josh wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:20 am What does this have to do with Babylon the Great or biblical prophecy?
Because of Proof 3.
Since Babylon the Great rules the world, she must be controlling the most powerful positions.
She is called the Great, because she has the greatest power in this world. She is the Queen.
How will these prophetic conclusions need to be revised in the future if China replaces America as the global superpower?
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Bootstrap

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RZehr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:00 pm How will these prophetic conclusions need to be revised in the future if China replaces America as the global superpower?
As long as it was Rome, then the Holy Roman Empire, I guess they were Babylon the Beast. Since then, the greatest power has changed several times. And it sometimes depends on what part of the world you are looking at.

But Israel is most certainly not the global superpower.

Really, this is a silly game. It has nothing to do with actually reading the Revelation and applying it to our lives and understanding of the world. It's all about Internet conspiracy theories.
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