Zionism, Replacement Theology, or Other

[Heirbyadoption]

Did they use the term "Replacement Theology"?

Some of them, yes. Unashamedly. I DO know it seems to have originated (at least among our folks) among some of our central Indiana congregations - not sure if maybe you can pinpoint the date or location of its rise among any particular Menno groups? Always wondered just how it got in among us initially...

Ok. That is the first time I have heard of someone referring to their own beliefs as "Replacement Theology".

As for my beliefs? "Scriptural."

Come on, now. Be a good sport!

I was only being semi-facetious. I do not have a label for my beliefs. In keeping with the general eschatological labeling, however, I admittedly grew up under various teachers of pre-trib and dispensational leanings, but even as I continue to study for myself, I find myself pretty solidly pre-trib / pre-millennial and have trouble find a coherent understanding of Scripture and its various prophecies without some level of acceptance that the Jewish people will indeed have some distinct parts in end times events beyond just providing 144,000 witnesses. That, coupled with the injunction of Revelation 1:3, leaves me extremely uncomfortable with the almost knee-jerk spiritualization of prophecy and end times events by many of my amillennial brothers and sisters, even if I understand why the extreme speculations and predictions of some Dispensationalists and pre-trib folks have prompted it over the last several decades. Amillennialism stands on nearly as thin of ice as Preterism does, frankly.

But that's just my meager understanding. I'm here to learn.

[Thomas_muntzer]

Rich and powerful people often live under an exaggerated sense of self importance and bankers fund all types of projects. The anti semitic part is suggesting that Jews are secretly controlling events. The simple fact that Jewish bankers provided the funds is not antisemitic nor is it that meaningful.

Ah, okay, yes, I agree with you there. Saying that Jews control everything or that they are the root of evil is anti-Semitic. I have never made those kinds of statements

[Southerner]

I find myself pretty solidly pre-trib / pre-millennial and have trouble find a coherent understanding of Scripture and its various prophecies without some level of acceptance that the Jewish people will indeed have some distinct parts in end times events

If you have these views about the "Jewish people", I am curious, did you marry a Jew? And if, "No", why not?

I am not familiar w "end times events". It is not an expression you will hear among Hutterites, Amish or Mennonites...exception being groups that left a millennial beliefs.

[JohnH]

I find myself pretty solidly pre-trib / pre-millennial and have trouble find a coherent understanding of Scripture and its various prophecies without some level of acceptance that the Jewish people will indeed have some distinct parts in end times events

If you have these views about the "Jewish people", I am curious, did you marry a Jew? And if, "No", why not?

I am not familiar w "end times events". It is not an expression you will hear among Hutterites, Amish or Mennonites...exception being groups that left a millennial beliefs.

??

There aren't many ethnic Jews in Anabaptist circles (although there are a few, and if one goes by a "one drop rule", there are a fair number amongst converts), so it would be doubtful a given person would be married to one.

[Heirbyadoption]

I find myself pretty solidly pre-trib / pre-millennial and have trouble find a coherent understanding of Scripture and its various prophecies without some level of acceptance that the Jewish people will indeed have some distinct parts in end times events

If you have these views about the "Jewish people", I am curious, did you marry a Jew? And if, "No", why not? I am not familiar w "end times events". It is not an expression you will hear among Hutterites, Amish or Mennonites...exception being groups that left a millennial beliefs.

I'm a bit confused on why I would be more motivated to marry a Jewish girl than a gentile one. Just because the Jewish people will still have a distinct role in (if I may use the term once more without confusing you a-mill brothers and sisters) in "end times events" doesn't mean the rest of us won't either. Gentiles already get spiritually grafted in anyway - I'm failing to see what advantage there might be to trying to genetically maneuver my grandchildren into a Jewish bracket...?

[barnhart]

I find myself pretty solidly pre-trib / pre-millennial and have trouble find a coherent understanding of Scripture and its various prophecies without some level of acceptance that the Jewish people will indeed have some distinct parts in end times events

If you have these views about the "Jewish people", I am curious, did you marry a Jew? And if, "No", why not? I am not familiar w "end times events". It is not an expression you will hear among Hutterites, Amish or Mennonites...exception being groups that left a millennial beliefs.

I'm a bit confused on why I would be more motivated to marry a Jewish girl than a gentile one. Just because the Jewish people will still have a distinct role in (if I may use the term once more without confusing you a-mill brothers and sisters) in "end times events" doesn't mean the rest of us won't either. Gentiles already get spiritually grafted in anyway - I'm failing to see what advantage there might be to trying to genetically maneuver my grandchildren into a Jewish bracket...?

In my parents generation I heard Mennonites with some Jewish blood speak about it with pride but I don't think they had a theological reason for it. It was more of an emotional attachment. I haven't heard that sort of thing for several decades, perhaps it went out of style.