JimFoxvog wrote:temporal1 wrote:Politicians and the press behaved so badly. Words cannot describe.
Yes, it's a tragic day for women when the US Senate says sexual abuse is no big deal. That's the message abused women got. Don't come forward about your attack. You will just be further victimized.
you’ve definitely gotten the message “never trumpers” want you to get.
that’s not the message i’m taking away.
in 1978, i was ambushed+attacked from behind, dragged into an alley. somehow, i managed to escape.
later, my daughter, a freshman at a state university party, was brutally raped by a football player. she told no one, she did not tell me until after she graduated. she has never given me his name.
i guess our experiences do not count.
i watched a video of part of Ford’s testimony in which she stated she REMEMBERED she was not raped or physically injured.
she REMEMBERED she was worried because she was disobeying her mother by being where she was not supposed to be, with TEENS who were also being disobedient. they were all doing wrong.
from what i heard Ford say, her MEMORIES were sufficient to warrant dismissal of her case.
teens often disobey.
sometimes they get hurt in the process. this can be part of the maturing process, do not disobey your parents. teens can SCARE THEMSELVES in disobedience. Ford REMEMBERED she was scared of her mother’s anger.
none of this proves BK was present.
if he was present, and did as accused, these were PEER TEENS rough housing in a place where they were not supposed to be. no one was hurt. being frightened is a relative condition. to repeat, we can scare ourselves very easily, esp when we know we are doing wrong.
this case of alleged teen peers disobeying, rough housing, etc., cannot be compared with ADULTS IN POWER/AUTHORITY who chronically abuse their positions to exploit others .. there are too many examples to name.
bill clinton (thankfully, not back in the peoples’ White House) is one. priests who have abused are others.
but, again, these are not peer teens in isolated situations, no prior histories, no following histories.
there is no valid comparison.
were the teens wrong? yes.
Supreme Court level wrong - i do not see it.
if the elected-appointed are to be judged on their teen years, then, let’s look at all of them, unseal college records, esp of those who openly admit to being irresponsible as teens, and, judge-away.
teens are not typically judged in adult courts, their records are not made public, their records often are eliminated .. recall how Nik Cruz’s records were “protected” because of his age, he went on to murder.
teens are not scrutinized as adults.
frankly, i believe lib politicians have done more than others to ensure this.
now they want to reverse all that (not to defend girls-women) but to block someone they specifically oppose from a nomination?
it does not hold water for me, a victim of violence, a mother of a victim, a nervous grandmother of a female child - in a world that continues to be violent and abusive.
male or female, anyone can be a victim of violence. males may be more vulnerable than females.
males may be even less likely to report abuse.
there is lots to this.
but, today’s lib politics are really over the top in desperation. in my view.
YMMV