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2025 Poll: Pastor Paula. White House Faith Office
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I voted the same.temporal1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:26 am i chose 1, 2, 7, 10.
4 yrs ago / Trump’s evangelical spiritual adviser prays for his reelection / 1min
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Trump’s televangelist spiritual adviser and millionaire preacher Paula White leads a prayer for his reelection
1) i’m not for WIM.
2) did devout Catholic biden start this WH faith office? and WIM in the White House?
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... se-office/
https://www.hhs.gov/about/agencies/iea/ ... index.html
3) i recently viewed something like the above (Paula) video.
i would not want to be in the same room with Paula. under any circumstances.
4) i hope she’s quickly dismissed.
Most of my walk with the Lord was in the Evangelical/Pentecost/Charismatic type of churches and that’s mainly because we do believe in the power and gifts of the Holy Spirit and that those gifts were not to die at the end of the Apostolic Age. However it is the embracing of accepting women in ministry and also NAR that led us out of this branch of the Church family tree.
Praying for President Trump to be careful who speaks into his life claiming to represent God.
I realize a sect of Mennonites embrace female pastors possibly using the same reasoning as other sects of Christianity. When you have Catholic presidents that were pro abortion like Biden I am not sure Trump who is pro-life would see women as “less than” in spirituality but hopefully he will hear from Christians warnings about her- the Church at large is a very confused looking Church,
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True. No debate. i’m not trying to make a case for Trump’s or any politician’s faith or lack of faith.
i’ve never done that. i haven’t known any personally. it’s beyond me.
i often wonder how much we’re influenced by things beyond what we’re aware. i imagine a lot. in addition to physical and emotional traits. Generations overlap, to me, like a relay race, batons are passed along. Batons can seem incidental, ‘cause the race dominates, it’s hard work. People think things, they often think they know why. i think we’re all influenced by things we know little or nothing about, but were passed down to us without notice.
Plus, every person has varying abilities to grab the baton, to pass it along. Still. It gets done. Usually. That’s the plan, anyway.
i think there’s more to Trump than he knows, he doesn’t have to know.
Trump has a blustery dominant personality. i believe he came by it naturally, through genetics and ancestry, and environment.
He’s God’s creation, as is P.Paula. Not my chosen faith leaders!

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i’m perfectly comfortable with an older, wiser, more docile Trump.
Re: 2025 Poll: Pastor Paula. White House Faith Office
Thanks Valerie. That’s a good explanation.Valerie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:46 pm I voted the same.
Most of my walk with the Lird was in the Evangelical/Pentecost/Charismatic type of churches and that’s mainly because we do believe in the power and gifts of the Holy Spirit and that those gifts were not to die at the end of the Apostolic Age. However it is the embracing of accepting women in ministry and also NAR that led us out of this branch of the Church family tree.
Praying for President Trump to be careful who speaks into his life claiming to represent God.
I realize a sect of Mennonites embrace female pastors possibly using the same reasoning as other sects of Christianity.
When you have Catholic presidents that were pro abortion like Biden I am not sure Trump who is pro-life would see women as “less than” in spirituality but hopefully he will hear from Christians warnings about her- the Church at large is a very confused looking Church,
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i’m perfectly comfortable with an older, wiser, more docile Trump.
Re: 2025 Poll: Pastor Paula. White House Faith Office
Now, regarding that genetic disposition to personality regarding Trump being Scottish , umm-temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:07 pmThanks Valerie. That’s a good explanation.Valerie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:46 pm I voted the same.
Most of my walk with the Lird was in the Evangelical/Pentecost/Charismatic type of churches and that’s mainly because we do believe in the power and gifts of the Holy Spirit and that those gifts were not to die at the end of the Apostolic Age. However it is the embracing of accepting women in ministry and also NAR that led us out of this branch of the Church family tree.
Praying for President Trump to be careful who speaks into his life claiming to represent God.
I realize a sect of Mennonites embrace female pastors possibly using the same reasoning as other sects of Christianity.
When you have Catholic presidents that were pro abortion like Biden I am not sure Trump who is pro-life would see women as “less than” in spirituality but hopefully he will hear from Christians warnings about her- the Church at large is a very confused looking Church,
My maiden name is “Scott” and married name “McMaster”

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Valerie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:36 pmNow, regarding that genetic disposition to personality regarding Trump being Scottish , umm-temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 11:07 pmThanks Valerie. That’s a good explanation.Valerie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:46 pm I voted the same.
Most of my walk with the Lird was in the Evangelical/Pentecost/Charismatic type of churches and that’s mainly because we do believe in the power and gifts of the Holy Spirit and that those gifts were not to die at the end of the Apostolic Age. However it is the embracing of accepting women in ministry and also NAR that led us out of this branch of the Church family tree.
Praying for President Trump to be careful who speaks into his life claiming to represent God.
I realize a sect of Mennonites embrace female pastors possibly using the same reasoning as other sects of Christianity.
When you have Catholic presidents that were pro abortion like Biden I am not sure Trump who is pro-life would see women as “less than” in spirituality but hopefully he will hear from Christians warnings about her- the Church at large is a very confused looking Church,
My maiden name is “Scott” and married name “McMaster”![]()

Yes. i was thinking of you. (and me, i recently found out i have some Scottish DNA)!
i don’t think of inherited traits as bad or good. They’re God-designed, He knows what He’s doing.

He invites ALL to choose Him. No doubt you have! (i hope) no doubt i have.
We can pray for political leaders to read scriptures AND be blessed by the Holy Spirit. He works in mysterious ways.Praying for President Trump to be careful who speaks into his life claiming to represent God.
We can pray to recognize His work, even when it looks weird.

Maybe because of my friend the vet, she frequently compared people’s traits with dogs, example, her husband was a bank auditor, she described him as a “real beagle” in his work, able and relentless in sniffing out accounting problems. i didn’t see that in him as a friend. i believed my friend knew her husband! A terrier will never be a Golden retriever. etc. A border collie will herd, even if, lacking sheep, it’s herding your children.

Nothing can stop Trump from being Trump. He has choices. He’s never shown traits of being a physical warrior, he’s psychologically resilient. Is strong resilience Scottish?! It might be. The Hebrides are remote with harsh climate. With his traits, if he were evil, wow. He’d be a terror. i don’t sense evil. Blustery+dominant aren’t evil.
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i’m perfectly comfortable with an older, wiser, more docile Trump.
Re: 2025 Poll: Pastor Paula. White House Faith Office
I confess I am amazed at the support for Trump in strongly religious circles. Not that those folks might vote or support him politically, but in a sort of religious pov. First, I neither voted for or against him, and prefer to have had him win versus his opponent.
But can anyone really take his view of religion seriously? Note, I am in the camp that finds it hard to believe a sincere Christian can get elected.
But clearly he is a braggart, an adulterer, sleepy, and either just tossing out a fake Christian world view to get such support OR, truly deluded that he is on the right track in regards to his person spirituality.
Again, I am not starting a political discussion about his policies. Rather, commenting on how so many religiously oriented folks are fervent supporters.
But can anyone really take his view of religion seriously? Note, I am in the camp that finds it hard to believe a sincere Christian can get elected.
But clearly he is a braggart, an adulterer, sleepy, and either just tossing out a fake Christian world view to get such support OR, truly deluded that he is on the right track in regards to his person spirituality.
Again, I am not starting a political discussion about his policies. Rather, commenting on how so many religiously oriented folks are fervent supporters.
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I don’t personally know people that voted for him for his particular spirituality, we did realize we were not electing a pastor, but it was his policies that we aligned with compared to the agenda on the left which has been brought up numerous times. His boasting makes me cringe but I consider he has to speak up of accomplishments because he’s been horribly treated since day one of his first term.JayP wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:21 pm I confess I am amazed at the support for Trump in strongly religious circles. Not that those folks might vote or support him politically, but in a sort of religious pov. First, I neither voted for or against him, and prefer to have had him win versus his opponent.
But can anyone really take his view of religion seriously? Note, I am in the camp that finds it hard to believe a sincere Christian can get elected.
But clearly he is a braggart, an adulterer, sleepy, and either just tossing out a fake Christian world view to get such support OR, truly deluded that he is on the right track in regards to his person spirituality.
Again, I am not starting a political discussion about his policies. Rather, commenting on how so many religiously oriented folks are fervent supporters.
I think that the Christians appreciated too his promise to appoint conservative Supreme Court Justices and he fortunately had 3 opportunities and followed through.
Unfortunately, adultery is not uncommon in presidential candidates but unlike JFK & Clinton, he did not commit it while POTUS like they did. King David was a man after Gids own heart and committed adultery- I’m not justifying it but if you think that should cause Christians to not support him, I say that’s in the past now.
Bottom line we want him to finish what he promised to do, and why he iwas elected which is what he is working very hard on. Hopefully through the prayers of the people he will draw closer to God
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