mennonitemom1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:27 pm
I know others disagree with me most times, so this is just my personal thoughts.... I'm usually in the very small minority....
That's fine - if we all had the same opinion, we would only need one person to post.
mennonitemom1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:27 pmI would never take the shot just because they were saying that we wouldn't be able to go in businesses, etc. without it... (too reminiscent of the Mark of the Beast).... I do not trust The Pharmaceutical Industry....
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Rev.13:16-18 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
I completely agree that we should not have anything to do with the Mark of the Beast, but I don't see how a vaccination can be that. The Mark of the Beast is a visible mark that involves a conscious choice of loyalty and worship. This article is useful:
Why? Because the mark of the beast (Rev. 13:16-18) is a mark that is closely tied to the worship of the beast (13:12, 15; cf. 19:20; 20:4). Thus, the mark of the beast is a mark of loyalty and devotion to the beast.
Moreover, when you compare those passages where the mark of the beast is discussed with passages like Rev. 7 and 14, it is plausible to think that the mark of the beast is most likely a sign that identifies you as something you already are—namely wicked and evil, a person of the dragon. I say this because when you read Rev. 7:1-8 and 14:1 (where the mark of the Lamb is discussed), you’ll notice it is a mark given to God’s people, God’s servants, in order to identify them as such and, of course, to protect them. They get the mark of the Lamb because they are already united with the Lamb.
It seems pretty evident that all of this is the case because these two marks—the mark of the beast and the mark of the Lamb—are meant to be seen as two polar realities, two opposite signs, marking out as it were two different types of people, namely, the wicked on the one hand and the righteous on the other.
What all this means is that the “mark of the beast” is most likely a spiritual, non-visible mark; it’s a mark of loyalty and worship and is not, therefore, something you could accidentally accept.
So you don’t need to fear getting the beast’s mark by taking a vaccine—unless, of course, you plan to treat the vaccine as a sort of symbolic expression or “unholy sacrament” (sorry for the oxymoron!) of your wilful and public rejection of the Christian faith that you despise. If that’s you and if that’s your plan, then it’s not the vaccine that’s the problem.
I have no settled beliefs on what the mark of the beast will involve but I can imagine where an invisible and updateable, easy to install, implant can be put into a person for various quick identification purpose (i.e. qualify to vote, confirmation on medicines deemed for the greater good, personal identifications replacing finger prints and credit card use, stuff like that). And then it can be abused for more controls deemed to be for the greater good to control all buying and selling. I'm too old to be around if this does occur but it seems to have a strong possibility of happening with how technology is going.
I was taught as a youth that if we were ready for the rapture it would not affect us but those who became Christ followers during the tribulation period, following the rapture, would likely die as martyrs refusing this mark. I'm pretty much a panmill believer today - 'it will all pan out in the end'.
One of the proposals in California right now is a requiring vaccines and an electronic passport app in order to apply for a job or go inside buildings to shop. That sure sounds an awful lot like a mark in order to “buy or sell”.
For those of us who think the current vaccines offered require compromising on avoiding using fetal tissue, that’s a serious problem for us.
I completely agree that we should not have anything to do with the Mark of the Beast, but I don't see how a vaccination can be that. The Mark of the Beast is a visible mark that involves a conscious choice of loyalty and worship. This article is useful:
Why? Because the mark of the beast (Rev. 13:16-18) is a mark that is closely tied to the worship of the beast (13:12, 15; cf. 19:20; 20:4). Thus, the mark of the beast is a mark of loyalty and devotion to the beast.
Moreover, when you compare those passages where the mark of the beast is discussed with passages like Rev. 7 and 14, it is plausible to think that the mark of the beast is most likely a sign that identifies you as something you already are—namely wicked and evil, a person of the dragon. I say this because when you read Rev. 7:1-8 and 14:1 (where the mark of the Lamb is discussed), you’ll notice it is a mark given to God’s people, God’s servants, in order to identify them as such and, of course, to protect them. They get the mark of the Lamb because they are already united with the Lamb.
It seems pretty evident that all of this is the case because these two marks—the mark of the beast and the mark of the Lamb—are meant to be seen as two polar realities, two opposite signs, marking out as it were two different types of people, namely, the wicked on the one hand and the righteous on the other.
What all this means is that the “mark of the beast” is most likely a spiritual, non-visible mark; it’s a mark of loyalty and worship and is not, therefore, something you could accidentally accept.
I think the mark could be spiritual, people that do not have the mark of the beast will have their father's name on their foreheads.... will the saved ones all have the name YHWH tattooed on their foreheads, or IN their foreheads?
I can see that if people are trusting "them" yes, some trickery is involved as the bible uses that word "pharmaceia" (sorcery, witchcraft) to ALMOST deceive the elect... It can be seen as a form of worship, (bowing down to, etc.) I guess if they want to microchip or tattoo the ones that have the vaccine it will be obvious....but by then it would be too late.... I don't think they will be carrying signs that say, "come get your mark of the beast here....yada yada" and why was the patent number 060606? and the bill was bill #6666? to me, that is very suspicious.... and vaccines are not safe or effective.... studies have shown....
To authorize the Secretary of Health and Human Services to award grants to eligible entities to conduct diagnostic testing for COVID–19, and related activities such as contact tracing, through mobile health units and, as necessary, at individuals’ residences, and for other purposes.
Maybe they're just pretending to like that 6 number so much just for fun, I dunno...
Sorry, this struck my funny bone that the gates of hell might be referring to Bill Gates and so I did some investigating and found this - http://www.clifford.at/fun/bill-satan.txt
I think something like this suggested that Nero was the antichrist - "The Greek name “Nero Caesar” put into Hebrew letters is NRON QSRN, which adds up to six hundred and sixty-six." - https://detroitcatholic.com/news/gary-m ... up-to-nero
Luke 17:26-29 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
Sorry, this struck my funny bone that the gates of hell might be referring to Bill Gates and so I did some investigating and found this - http://www.clifford.at/fun/bill-satan.txt
I think something like this suggested that Nero was the antichrist - "The Greek name “Nero Caesar” put into Hebrew letters is NRON QSRN, which adds up to six hundred and sixty-six." - https://detroitcatholic.com/news/gary-m ... up-to-nero
Keep laughing... pretend it's a joke... it won't be funny when they say you can't get food unless you show your vaccine passport.... people are dying from the shots at an alarming rate... people in Australia are having their' children taken from them and forcibly vaccinated against their' wishes... it's only a matter of time... I'll have to decide to take the shot or die.... so I guess I'll be dying....l
mennonitemom1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:42 pmLuke 17:26-29 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
Notice how in the modern era... there is no more being married to wives or given in marriage.
In the modern era, it is replaced with cohabitation, fornication, sex before marriage, and gay marriage. We are truly on the days of Lot. Will we be called out of the wicked city, or turn and look back?
