Speaking in Tongues?

[JohnL]

My particular group doesn't do tongues. That’s something the Holiness Pentecostals do over in the next holler.
I believe in the Holy Spirit’s gifts and that they’re given to people to help them. I also believe that not every Christian is given ALL them gifts at the same time because they don’t need them for what they’re called to do. God gives us what we need when we need it. My thinking is that’s so we don’t get too proud or thinking we’re something special.

[JohnH]

It is true, there is a variety of teachings about this as well as interpretation of the Scriptures about the gifts, suffice to say, like most things in Christianity, it is why there are different denominations. There are many from Anabaptist heritage who have & believe in the Spiritusl gifts, when it is authentic, opinions against them mean nothing to those who have the gifts and use them correctly, after all, they are “gifts” the Holy Spirit gives. A purposeful blessing and glory to God.

There are many from Anabaptist heritage who have become Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Adventists, atheists, and many other things.

There some Anabaptists, like myself, who come from a tongues-heritage. I have been “speaking in tongues” since I was 2, basically as long as English. However, I believe it to have no spiritual value whatsoever, and rather obviously it didn’t require me to be filled with the Spirit nor converted to do so.

A book that has influenced my thinking is “Demons in the Church” by Ellis Skofield (available from Home Office Sport Supply in Penn Yan, NY).

In particular, I very much doubt such an important doctrine and spiritual gift would have kept from Christianity until 1903.

[Valerie]

It is true, there is a variety of teachings about this as well as interpretation of the Scriptures about the gifts, suffice to say, like most things in Christianity, it is why there are different denominations. There are many from Anabaptist heritage who have & believe in the Spiritusl gifts, when it is authentic, opinions against them mean nothing to those who have the gifts and use them correctly, after all, they are “gifts” the Holy Spirit gives. A purposeful blessing and glory to God.

There are many from Anabaptist heritage who have become Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Adventists, atheists, and many other things.

There some Anabaptists, like myself, who come from a tongues-heritage. I have been “speaking in tongues” since I was 2, basically as long as English. However, I believe it to have no spiritual value whatsoever, and rather obviously it didn’t require me to be filled with the Spirit nor converted to do so.

A book that has influenced my thinking is “Demons in the Church” by Ellis Skofield (available from Home Office Sport Supply in Penn Yan, NY).

In particular, I very much doubt such an important doctrine and spiritual gift would have kept from Christianity until 1903.

It wasn’t kept out until 1903.
It’s not a heretical teaching either like Mormons or JW.
Apostle Paul is the one who taught the value of it.
I agree it is not a requirement, but it is a gift.
I agree the demonic realm likes to get involved so that people doubt the supernatural gift altogether as Satan hates the gifts. He prefers lying signs & wonders & they have always existed & of course will always.
Satan wins if we deny the gifts altogether. There is no other true religion out there that can claim the Hy Spirit and his pouring out purposeful Spiritual gifts.

[Junior2877]

1 cor. 14:2 deserves more clarification

[Valerie]

1 cor. 14:2 deserves more clarification

I would love to see a discussion between him & someone else I know where they could exchange their “understandings” (since he used that word a lot).

Just a note: he chose to supply video shots of the weird.
Our church was nothing like that at all nor were any of the charismatic/pentecostal churches I attended most of my life.
However I know this exists and would run from it.
The only similarity may be, when the Holy Spirit was poured out on the day of Pentecost, apparently their behavior led witnesses to believe they were “drunk”.
However our churches, everything was decent & in order.

[Anthony]

1 cor. 14:2 deserves more clarification

I would love to see a discussion between him & someone else I know where they could exchange their “understandings” (since he used that word a lot).

Just a note: he chose to supply video shots of the weird.
Our church was nothing like that at all nor were any of the charismatic/pentecostal churches I attended most of my life.
However I know this exists and would run from it.
The only similarity may be, when the Holy Spirit was poured out on the day of Pentecost, apparently their behavior led witnesses to believe they were “drunk”.
However our churches, everything was decent & in order.

Im just curious what turns you off from the “weird” shots? Isnt the weird stuff the appeal of pentecoastalism? I almost think “decent and in order” is the opposite of what they are going for.

[Valerie]

1 cor. 14:2 deserves more clarification

I would love to see a discussion between him & someone else I know where they could exchange their “understandings” (since he used that word a lot).

Just a note: he chose to supply video shots of the weird.
Our church was nothing like that at all nor were any of the charismatic/pentecostal churches I attended most of my life.
However I know this exists and would run from it.
The only similarity may be, when the Holy Spirit was poured out on the day of Pentecost, apparently their behavior led witnesses to believe they were “drunk”.
However our churches, everything was decent & in order.

Im just curious what turns you off from the “weird” shots? Isnt the weird stuff the appeal of pentecoastalism? I almost think “decent and in order” is the opposite of what they are going for.

I’ve never been in a church that embraced spiritual gifts that displayed that kind of behavior.

I’ve heard of what was called the “Holy Rollers” but I never was part of that. Not into weird manifestations.
Scripture encourages gifts but also says “test the spirits to see if they are from God. Even in churches I’ve been a part of we didn’t automatically assume every tongue or prophetic word was from God, there can be error, there can be counterfeit. I understand that this possibility makes many churches just want to about it altogether. Easier that way.