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steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:07 am Forgot the definition of being woke:

The quality of being alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination.

seinetsodumm wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:26 am

steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:07 am Forgot the definition of being woke:

The quality of being alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination.

Such a loaded topic. I don't particularly want to get into a long argument, but at that risk I'll share a few thoughts.

I think as a believer, I should already be alert to those around me. After all Jesus said to "Love the Lord your God and your neighbor as yourself." Jesus story about the good Samaritan makes it clear that love should extend to those around me, even those of different social class/ethnicity. However, that awareness should flow out of a living relationship with my Father. In my relationships with those around me, treating them fairly and with love should always point back to my relationship with God and should draw them towards relationship with God. I don't see that in the modern woke philosophy and I don't see that coming through at large in the message of the woke Anabaptism. Instead, what I hear coming through is a message of tolerance. That is a dangerous place. I think meeting physical needs can be a great place to start, being aware of "social injustice" (who really determines that definition anyways - there's something about the mob mentality of wokism that seems evil to me) can provide opportunity. But lets not get sidetracked, Jesus is the answer here.

Grace wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:48 pm

seinetsodumm wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:26 am

steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:07 am Forgot the definition of being woke:

The quality of being alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination.

Such a loaded topic. I don't particularly want to get into a long argument, but at that risk I'll share a few thoughts.

I think as a believer, I should already be alert to those around me. After all Jesus said to "Love the Lord your God and your neighbor as yourself." Jesus story about the good Samaritan makes it clear that love should extend to those around me, even those of different social class/ethnicity. However, that awareness should flow out of a living relationship with my Father. In my relationships with those around me, treating them fairly and with love should always point back to my relationship with God and should draw them towards relationship with God. I don't see that in the modern woke philosophy and I don't see that coming through at large in the message of the woke Anabaptism. Instead, what I hear coming through is a message of tolerance. That is a dangerous place. I think meeting physical needs can be a great place to start, being aware of "social injustice" (who really determines that definition anyways - there's something about the mob mentality of wokism that seems evil to me) can provide opportunity. But lets not get sidetracked, Jesus is the answer here.

Well said.

In Colossians 2:8 Paul says to not be taken captive by false philosophies. I would say that “wokeness” might come in that category.

Genesis teaches that all humans are equally part of one human race. Although we may have different skin tones, languages, or ethnicities that distinguish us, we are all human beings who are made in the image of God. Wokeness seems to point the finger at skin color. However, it isn’t skin color that is the problem, SIN is the problem. If someone is demeaned and mistreated because of their skin color, they have been wronged and sinned against. Woke ideology turns humans against one another, and results in individuals being judged by the color of their skin and status in society rather than the content of their character or their status in the eyes of God.

Grace wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:48 pm
Well said.

In Colossians 2:8 Paul says to not be taken captive by false philosophies. I would say that “wokeness” might come in that category.

Genesis teaches that all humans are equally part of one human race. Although we may have different skin tones, languages, or ethnicities that distinguish us, we are all human beings who are made in the image of God. Wokeness seems to point the finger at skin color. However, it isn’t skin color that is the problem, SIN is the problem. If someone is demeaned and mistreated because of their skin color, they have been wronged and sinned against. Woke ideology turns humans against one another, and results in individuals being judged by the color of their skin and status in society rather than the content of their character or their status in the eyes of God.