Of Baptism
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:11 pm
I just recently read some writings from David Bercot and discovered that he believes that a sinner is saved at the time of water baptism. Is this a common belief in anabaptist churches.
You are kidding here, right? Did they get this from the Church of Christ or something?Josh wrote:It is not a common belief. German Baptists sort of believe this.
Followers of the Way in Boston has a very strong belief in this, to the point they think most Mennonite aren't saved due if they weren't fully immersed nor saved during instruction class.
I'm not kidding. My theory is that for it from their CoC or ICoC roots.Judas Maccabeus wrote:You are kidding here, right? Did they get this from the Church of Christ or something?Josh wrote:It is not a common belief. German Baptists sort of believe this.
Followers of the Way in Boston has a very strong belief in this, to the point they think most Mennonite aren't saved due if they weren't fully immersed nor saved during instruction class.
J.M.
Typically Mennonites have a class ranging from 3 months to a year where one learns about various Christian doctrines and applications of them, basically what the church expects of you, before you join and are baptised. Mennonites typically believe Jesus saves us, that salvation is a free gift we can have just for asking Jesus for it, and that baptism is an outward symbol of joining the church and of how Jesus has already been washing the new believer of his sins.Shoesnsocks wrote:What's instruction class?
Seems to me, the Amish believe this as well-which they are Anabaptists?Josh wrote:It is not a common belief. German Baptists sort of believe this.
Followers of the Way in Boston has a very strong belief in this, to the point they think most Mennonite aren't saved due if they weren't fully immersed nor saved during instruction class.
In other words, if you were baptized as an unbeliever, you should be rebaptized?Josh wrote:Followers of the Way in Boston has a very strong belief in this, to the point they think most Mennonite aren't saved due if they weren't fully immersed nor saved during instruction class.
The Amish view on salvation is different enough that the question "At what exact moment are you saved?" doesn't make sense.Valerie wrote:Seems to me, the Amish believe this as well-which they are Anabaptists?Josh wrote:It is not a common belief. German Baptists sort of believe this.
Followers of the Way in Boston has a very strong belief in this, to the point they think most Mennonite aren't saved due if they weren't fully immersed nor saved during instruction class.
It is because when Jesus used the terminology "Born Again of Water and of the Spirit" it became common teaching that is referring to Baptism (the water) and then receiving the Holy Spirit, at one's baptism- thus born of 'water and the spirit- born again.
I suspect you are treated this way due to being an ethnic Anabaptist in good standing.Ernie wrote:In other words, if you were baptized as an unbeliever, you should be rebaptized?Josh wrote:Followers of the Way in Boston has a very strong belief in this, to the point they think most Mennonite aren't saved due if they weren't fully immersed nor saved during instruction class.
I believe this as well.
I was never immersed but they invite me to preach and commune there anyhow. This causes consternation for a few of the members but this has not even been a point of discussion between the leadership and myself. There are others in their church who have not been immersed who are treated similarly to me by the leadership.