The Anabaptist perception on self check-outs!

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R7ehr
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Re: The Anabaptist perception on self check-outs!

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Ernie wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 3:11 pm
R7ehr wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 12:27 pm Aldi is removing self checkouts.
It remains to be seen if yet more popular grocers will start having seller's regret in regard to express lanes.
What is the concern about express lanes?
I don't know. It seems like it should say self checkout instead of express.
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Long Beach California recently passed a law banning self-check outs for any items that stores keep locked up: https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/loca ... e/3782541/

They are basically making retailers put their money where their mouth is. If items are so theft-prone to be left on the shelf and not locked up, then they must be too theft-prone for self checkouts as well. It is a popular law apparently as retailers are having to decide whether to (1) stop locking up everything in the aisles, or (2) hire more human cashiers and get rid of the self check out lines.
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Ken wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 5:47 pm Long Beach California recently passed a law banning self-check outs for any items that stores keep locked up: https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/loca ... e/3782541/

They are basically making retailers put their money where their mouth is. If items are so theft-prone to be left on the shelf and not locked up, then they must be too theft-prone for self checkouts as well. It is a popular law apparently as retailers are having to decide whether to (1) stop locking up everything in the aisles, or (2) hire more human cashiers and get rid of the self check out lines.
This seems like an entirely inappropriate interference with business.

Perhaps the city and state should consider arresting, prosecuting, and punishing thieves instead.
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Ken wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 5:47 pm Long Beach California recently passed a law banning self-check outs for any items that stores keep locked up: https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/loca ... e/3782541/

They are basically making retailers put their money where their mouth is. If items are so theft-prone to be left on the shelf and not locked up, then they must be too theft-prone for self checkouts as well. It is a popular law apparently as retailers are having to decide whether to (1) stop locking up everything in the aisles, or (2) hire more human cashiers and get rid of the self check out lines.
Funny thing between Lowes and Menards. I have purchased several 250' rolls of residential 'romex' wire recently, and Loews has it in a locked case, whereas it just sits out on an open shelf at both Menards and the Farm & Fleet. (At Lowes I had to call for help, then the employee took it to the cash register herself, and I had to find it up front when I was finished shopping. They didn't want to let it out of their sight until it was paid for, even within the store. What was I going to do - stuff a 250' roll of electrical wire up my shirt?!!? :? )
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Neto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 1:23 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 5:47 pm Long Beach California recently passed a law banning self-check outs for any items that stores keep locked up: https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/loca ... e/3782541/

They are basically making retailers put their money where their mouth is. If items are so theft-prone to be left on the shelf and not locked up, then they must be too theft-prone for self checkouts as well. It is a popular law apparently as retailers are having to decide whether to (1) stop locking up everything in the aisles, or (2) hire more human cashiers and get rid of the self check out lines.
Funny thing between Lowes and Menards. I have purchased several 250' rolls of residential 'romex' wire recently, and Loews has it in a locked case, whereas it just sits out on an open shelf at both Menards and the Farm & Fleet. (At Lowes I had to call for help, then the employee took it to the cash register herself, and I had to find it up front when I was finished shopping. They didn't want to let it out of their sight until it was paid for, even within the store. What was I going to do - stuff a 250' roll of electrical wire up my shirt?!!? :? )
Note that the 14/2 and 12/2 rolls are right out in the open for sale by the Pro checkout.
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Neto wrote: ↑Sat Oct 04, 2025 1:23 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Fri Oct 03, 2025 5:47 pm Long Beach California recently passed a law banning self-check outs for any items that stores keep locked up: https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/loca ... e/3782541/

They are basically making retailers put their money where their mouth is. If items are so theft-prone to be left on the shelf and not locked up, then they must be too theft-prone for self checkouts as well. It is a popular law apparently as retailers are having to decide whether to (1) stop locking up everything in the aisles, or (2) hire more human cashiers and get rid of the self check out lines.
Funny thing between Lowes and Menards. I have purchased several 250' rolls of residential 'romex' wire recently, and Loews has it in a locked case, whereas it just sits out on an open shelf at both Menards and the Farm & Fleet. (At Lowes I had to call for help, then the employee took it to the cash register herself, and I had to find it up front when I was finished shopping. They didn't want to let it out of their sight until it was paid for, even within the store. What was I going to do - stuff a 250' roll of electrical wire up my shirt?!!? :? )
Just an overreaction due to some significant heists. According to an employee at our local Home Depot, organized crime made its way up and down the coast. They brazenly took entire skids of wire and pushed them out the door with pallet jacks.
What's crazy is that even with the wire cage in front it's not difficult to reach thru and drop the rolls to the floor. The large gap at the bottom easily allows you to retrieve the roll.
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One side effect of this is that you can't return romex wire (and a number of other expensive commodity type of items) without a receipt. Not even an uneven exchange or a store credit. No receipt, no return. The only thing you can do is return it for the identical item, in case it was defective.
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I recently purchased a gallon of paint at Home Depot with one of their custom colors. I told the man in the paint department to set it on the counter after mixing it, that I want to do some other shopping and will retrieve it later. He told me on uncertain terms to wait at the paint counter until he is done mixing the paint. He said they have so much trouble that when they put the paint on the counter for the customer to retrieve it later, other people will grab it and walk off with it. When coming up to the self-checkout, someone immediately came and did it for me. I guess paint is a valuable commodity, around $50.00 for a gallon of Behr paint.
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Not Anabaptist:

Self checkout is nearly forced when i visit family near Seattle. After 8-9pm, 100%.
At home, rural Midwest, i use cashiers, i’m not alone in line. 1-2 cashiers are present at all hours.

Self-checks are busy, tho.
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