I just read an article on this quite recently, or part of an article, I should say, because I can hardly bring myself to read things thoroughly as I ought. Likewise, I barely read this thread, but I think I have the gist of it, and I want to ask a question here that was raised by that other article.
In that article it said that the Greek word translated "head" used by Paul in the NT cannot mean leadership or authority as it is commonly assumed today, because there is no metaphorical meaning such as that for that word in the Greek.
It likely means "source" they said...and we should examine the myriad ways in which Christ is the "source" for and of man in order to understand how man is and should be the "source" for women.
Is this true? I would love to know.
Should Women have a Spiritual Head other than Jesus?
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Neto
Re: Should Women have a Spiritual Head other than Jesus?
For my personal understanding of this, see this thread: "The Symbolic usage of 'head' in the New Testament"
http://forum.mennonet.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1573
http://forum.mennonet.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1573
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RZehr
Re: Should Women have a Spiritual Head other than Jesus?
There is clear teaching that the husband is the wife’s leader, but nothing that says the unmarried woman should find a man to be her spiritual head.
It does say the young women should be taught by the older women.
It says the pastors should watch over the flock, of which the young women are a part.
I suppose if a designated, personal spiritual head was needed for single women, would have something better to go on than squinting sideways at 1 Cor. 11.
I think even an ungodly father has some authority over his godly children both sons and daughters. Honor is due to him. But he shouldn’t be looked upon as a spiritual authority.
It does say the young women should be taught by the older women.
It says the pastors should watch over the flock, of which the young women are a part.
I suppose if a designated, personal spiritual head was needed for single women, would have something better to go on than squinting sideways at 1 Cor. 11.
I think even an ungodly father has some authority over his godly children both sons and daughters. Honor is due to him. But he shouldn’t be looked upon as a spiritual authority.
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Ernie
Re: Should Women have a Spiritual Head other than Jesus?
I don't understand.RZehr wrote:I suppose if a designated, personal spiritual head was needed for single women, would have something better to go on than squinting sideways at 1 Cor. 11.
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RZehr
Re: Should Women have a Spiritual Head other than Jesus?
Added the word “we” above. Now does it make sense?Ernie wrote:I don't understand.RZehr wrote:I suppose if a designated, personal spiritual head was needed for single women, WE would have something better to go on than squinting sideways at 1 Cor. 11.
Seems like there would be some clear teaching saying that it isn’t right for any woman to be without a personal, spiritual head. There is a lot said about relationships and authority. The absence of teaching on this one is notable.
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Ernie
Re: Should Women have a Spiritual Head other than Jesus?
I'm getting more of the picture I think. I'm not getting the "squinting sideways" meaning though.RZehr wrote:Added the word “we” above. Now does it make sense?Ernie wrote:I don't understand.RZehr wrote:I suppose if a designated, personal spiritual head was needed for single women, WE would have something better to go on than squinting sideways at 1 Cor. 11.
Seems like there would be some clear teaching saying that it isn’t right for any woman to be without a personal, spiritual head. There is a lot said about relationships and authority. The absence of teaching on this one is notable.
Are you saying that women should have a spiritual head in a way that is different from men?
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RZehr
Re: Should Women have a Spiritual Head other than Jesus?
Sorry. Squinting sideways meant trying to see something there, that is not really there, or was not intended to be there.
Example would be my 10 year old with a good imagination, coupled with a strong desire to see a bear. He would be seeing a black bear, when really it is a stump.
Example would be my 10 year old with a good imagination, coupled with a strong desire to see a bear. He would be seeing a black bear, when really it is a stump.
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