Are there any non-Beachy Amish sects that permit Bible study in the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Koine Greek?

[MennoSimons1998]

The title says it, my ultimate goal is to directly visit certain Amish and Mennonite communities throughout North and South America and ask them certain questions related to my Anabaptist history project, because relying on out-of-context, outdated, AI slop from Google to learn about the beliefs of the Amish of all groups is an absolute pain.

I am aware that Beachy Amish are very Evangelical-minded nowadays and permit such Bible study in the original languages and occasionally collaborating with non-Anabaptist publishers for Bible books and whatnot, but how would certain New Order Amish react to the idea of someone in the congregation who wishs to learn the Bible in their original languages instead of in the High German of the Luther Bible, or theoretically allow a convert that already knows the languages, is very acquainted with Bible scholarship, and wishes to continue studying it?, would it be seen a slippery slope to let Evangelical ideas into them, or be seen as a form of spiritual pride?

[JohnH]

The title says it, my ultimate goal is to directly visit certain Amish and Mennonite communities throughout North and South America and ask them certain questions related to my Anabaptist history project, because relying on out-of-context, outdated, AI slop from Google to learn about the beliefs of the Amish of all groups is an absolute pain.

I am aware that Beachy Amish are very Evangelical-minded nowadays and permit such Bible study in the original languages and occasionally collaborating with non-Anabaptist publishers for Bible books and whatnot, but how would certain New Order Amish react to the idea of someone in the congregation who wishs to learn the Bible in their original languages instead of in the High German of the Luther Bible, or theoretically allow a convert that already knows the languages, is very acquainted with Bible scholarship, and wishes to continue studying it?, would it be seen a slippery slope to let Evangelical ideas into them, or be seen as a form of spiritual pride?

I mean, at a typical transitional Beachy (i.e. ADC) institution you could do whatever you want, but nobody else would really be much interested in what you are. They would be more interested in acquiring branded "teen" Bibles for gifts, adopting the NIV, etc.

At a New Order church or my own I'm sure you could study other languages, but most people would not be very interested and nobody is going to show much interest in a new Bible translation.

As we have spoken before, I would talk to one of the people on TTB about this. He is reachable by telephone, email, or dropping by in person. If you are unable to use any of these methods then I would say you won't be very successful in your quest.

[Neto]

When my wife and I left the States to do Bible translation in Brazil (1985), we were financially supported by not only Several Beachy Amish-Mennonite congregations, but also other Plain Mennonite congregations ('Plain' in that men wore the 'straight cut' suit, women wore cape dresses and the traditional covering with strings, all singing was in accapella, men & women sat separately, etc.). We were also 'prayer supported' by at least one New Order Amish bishop - We knew this was so because he wrote us regularly, until his un-timely death in his mid 70's.

I know a number of Old Order Amish ministers (and bishops) who use commentaries to study for their messages, and I suspect they would study the original languages if there had been an opportunity for them to learn them. One especially of my wife's (New Order) Amish cousins has collected many books and resources in German, including a very old copy of the Martyr's Mirror, which if I recall correctly, is from the original printing (in German). (I don't think it is an original first printing, which was of course in Dutch.) This collection has become the German Library here in East Holmes County (a few miles outside of Berlin).

Also, I personally knew the translator of the Datsch Bible, and he had a committee of Old & New Order Amish ministers with whom he consulted on translation issues.

[MennoSimons1998]

The title says it, my ultimate goal is to directly visit certain Amish and Mennonite communities throughout North and South America and ask them certain questions related to my Anabaptist history project, because relying on out-of-context, outdated, AI slop from Google to learn about the beliefs of the Amish of all groups is an absolute pain.

I am aware that Beachy Amish are very Evangelical-minded nowadays and permit such Bible study in the original languages and occasionally collaborating with non-Anabaptist publishers for Bible books and whatnot, but how would certain New Order Amish react to the idea of someone in the congregation who wishs to learn the Bible in their original languages instead of in the High German of the Luther Bible, or theoretically allow a convert that already knows the languages, is very acquainted with Bible scholarship, and wishes to continue studying it?, would it be seen a slippery slope to let Evangelical ideas into them, or be seen as a form of spiritual pride?

I mean, at a typical transitional Beachy (i.e. ADC) institution you could do whatever you want, but nobody else would really be much interested in what you are. They would be more interested in acquiring branded "teen" Bibles for gifts, adopting the NIV, etc.

At a New Order church or my own I'm sure you could study other languages, but most people would not be very interested and nobody is going to show much interest in a new Bible translation.

As we have spoken before, I would talk to one of the people on TTB about this. He is reachable by telephone, email, or dropping by in person. If you are unable to use any of these methods then I would say you won't be very successful in your quest.

I also should have been more objective: I am referring to an Amish sect that still speaks Pennsylvania German, have worship services conducted at homes/barns/shops instead of church, will allow limited electricity use and perhaps computer use for Bible study, etc., but are still permissive in members being interested in researching more about Bible history and stuff, from my limited and obviously extremely inaccurate internet searches, they would view attempting to do such a thing as a threat to their religious unity.

Also, what is TTB an abbreviation for?

[MennoSimons1998]

When my wife and I left the States to do Bible translation in Brazil (1985), we were financially supported by not only Several Beachy Amish-Mennonite congregations, but also other Plain Mennonite congregations ('Plain' in that men wore the 'straight cut' suit, women wore cape dresses and the traditional covering with strings, all singing was in accapella, men & women sat separately, etc.). We were also 'prayer supported' by at least one New Order Amish bishop - We knew this was so because he wrote us regularly, until his un-timely death in his mid 70's.

I know a number of Old Order Amish ministers (and bishops) who use commentaries to study for their messages, and I suspect they would study the original languages if there had been an opportunity for them to learn them. One especially of my wife's (New Order) Amish cousins has collected many books and resources in German, including a very old copy of the Martyr's Mirror, which if I recall correctly, is from the original printing (in German). (I don't think it is an original first printing, which was of course in Dutch.) This collection has become the German Library here in East Holmes County (a few miles outside of Berlin).

Also, I personally knew the translator of the Datsch Bible, and he had a committee of Old & New Order Amish ministers with whom he consulted on translation issues.

So beautiful to learn this!, it is unreal how much misinformed the internet is about plain Anabaptists, I look forward to one day visit Amish & Mennonite country myself and inquire the communities there more, and also the New Order Amish in Colonia Naranjita in Bolivia, since they are (as far as I know) the only non-Beachy Amish with a settlement in South America, will love see an update of how life is in there.

[Neto]

When my wife and I left the States to do Bible translation in Brazil (1985), we were financially supported by not only Several Beachy Amish-Mennonite congregations, but also other Plain Mennonite congregations ('Plain' in that men wore the 'straight cut' suit, women wore cape dresses and the traditional covering with strings, all singing was in accapella, men & women sat separately, etc.). We were also 'prayer supported' by at least one New Order Amish bishop - We knew this was so because he wrote us regularly, until his un-timely death in his mid 70's.

I know a number of Old Order Amish ministers (and bishops) who use commentaries to study for their messages, and I suspect they would study the original languages if there had been an opportunity for them to learn them. One especially of my wife's (New Order) Amish cousins has collected many books and resources in German, including a very old copy of the Martyr's Mirror, which if I recall correctly, is from the original printing (in German). (I don't think it is an original first printing, which was of course in Dutch.) This collection has become the German Library here in East Holmes County (a few miles outside of Berlin).

Also, I personally knew the translator of the Datsch Bible, and he had a committee of Old & New Order Amish ministers with whom he consulted on translation issues.

So beautiful to learn this!, it is unreal how much misinformed the internet is about plain Anabaptists, I look forward to one day visit Amish & Mennonite country myself and inquire the communities there more, and also the New Order Amish in Colonia Naranjita in Bolivia, since they are (as far as I know) the only non-Beachy Amish with a settlement in South America, will love see an update of how life is in there.

I don't know the name of the settlement in Bolivia that was started by a group of New Order Amish here in Holmes County (one of my wife's cousins being involved in it), but briefly, the way they did it was to go in and buy a huge plot of land, clear it all, then subdivide it into separate farms. All those who moved there signed a document stating that if at some point they no longer wanted to follow the conduct guidelines (such as if they decided to purchase a pickup), that then they would sell the land back to the organization. He told me about this some years ago now, at a funeral for another cousin. But he was also rather put out that some had done exactly that (bought pickups, or other things on the "do not do" list, but then did not honor the document they had signed. My wife & I talked about it later, that the organizers had not taken the time to know the culture of those with whom they were dealing. A paper is just not an important thing to many people. (This is one thing we tried to stress to the Indians, that they should never "ascinar em branco".)

[ohio jones]

Also, what is TTB an abbreviation for?

In this context, the Traditional Text Bible and/or its publishers.

[lmcdoss]

When my wife and I left the States to do Bible translation in Brazil (1985), we were financially supported by not only Several Beachy Amish-Mennonite congregations, but also other Plain Mennonite congregations ('Plain' in that men wore the 'straight cut' suit, women wore cape dresses and the traditional covering with strings, all singing was in accapella, men & women sat separately, etc.). We were also 'prayer supported' by at least one New Order Amish bishop - We knew this was so because he wrote us regularly, until his un-timely death in his mid 70's.

I know a number of Old Order Amish ministers (and bishops) who use commentaries to study for their messages, and I suspect they would study the original languages if there had been an opportunity for them to learn them. One especially of my wife's (New Order) Amish cousins has collected many books and resources in German, including a very old copy of the Martyr's Mirror, which if I recall correctly, is from the original printing (in German). (I don't think it is an original first printing, which was of course in Dutch.) This collection has become the German Library here in East Holmes County (a few miles outside of Berlin).

Also, I personally knew the translator of the Datsch Bible, and he had a committee of Old & New Order Amish ministers with whom he consulted on translation issues.

So beautiful to learn this!, it is unreal how much misinformed the internet is about plain Anabaptists, I look forward to one day visit Amish & Mennonite country myself and inquire the communities there more, and also the New Order Amish in Colonia Naranjita in Bolivia, since they are (as far as I know) the only non-Beachy Amish with a settlement in South America, will love see an update of how life is in there.

I don't know the name of the settlement in Bolivia that was started by a group of New Order Amish here in Holmes County (one of my wife's cousins being involved in it), but briefly, the way they did it was to go in and buy a huge plot of land, clear it all, then subdivide it into separate farms. All those who moved there signed a document stating that if at some point they no longer wanted to follow the conduct guidelines (such as if they decided to purchase a pickup), that then they would sell the land back to the organization. He told me about this some years ago now, at a funeral for another cousin. But he was also rather put out that some had done exactly that (bought pickups, or other things on the "do not do" list, but then did not honor the document they had signed. My wife & I talked about it later, that the organizers had not taken the time to know the culture of those with whom they were dealing. A paper is just not an important thing to many people. (This is one thing we tried to stress to the Indians, that they should never "ascinar em branco".)

It happens in the colonies of the old colony mennonites too.But since their colonies are deeper in the jungle most tend to sell it and leave the colony later.
Also whose that joined the amish and bought the pick ups left the old colony church for which reason? Maybe they already did so with that in mind, this is with the intention to modernize.
Since the new order amish there have electricity from the grid im pretty sure the mennonites that joined them were excommunicated after joining them or were already excummunicated before.

[MennoSimons1998]

I don't know the name of the settlement in Bolivia that was started by a group of New Order Amish here in Holmes County (one of my wife's cousins being involved in it)

I think that they are this one, right?, as @lmcdoss wrote here:

Naranjito in Bolivia is New order amish, not beachy amish. The vast majority are of old-colony origin.
Coordinates:-17.497166851451354, -62.68042209070904
I remember reading somewhere that they are New Order Fellowship, which are the most liberal ones though.