Biblical Mennonite Alliance and credential removal of past abusers

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JohnH
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I Timothy,

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ohio jones
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JohnH wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2026 5:19 pm And the entire structure of BMA so far has been to be very light and not top-down or heirarchical or powerful, yet you keep arguing for how it's important to recreate the Vatican.
It seems they may have recreated the DDF, at any rate.
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flyingnorm
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AnthonyMartin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 8:00 pm
I Timothy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2026 7:32 pm Would a bot remember sitting at SMBI in the 1990s and having a classroom discussion about whether a girl should run away from unwanted male advances? This discussion isn't about me, there are real victims who need support and resources.
Probably not a bot, but I would. 93, and 94 terms…
This bot question was answered already.

1Timothy has been known to ask reasonable but difficult to answer questions. This intelligence is not artificial. It simply is reasonable and logical analysis of what he seems to know.

Characterizing 1Timothy as an AI bot is pretty easy to do. He wouldn’t need to be given any attention if he were a bot. Just like the whistleblowers don’t need to be given any attention if they are characterized as “weak” or “burned out” or “angry” or “unforgiving”

These negative characterizations of people with tough questions are defensive mechanisms often employed by institutions and individuals when they or their leadership are in trouble. The fact that it is happening here is evidence that an uncomfortable fact pattern is emerging in this thread.
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I Timothy
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JohnH wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2026 11:18 pm I Timothy,

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Let us stay on topic. I grew up in the Watergate aftermath where what someone knows, when they knew it and what they did were important questions.

The bot question was settled previously.
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I Timothy
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ohio jones wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2026 11:55 pm
JohnH wrote: ↑Thu Aug 20, 2026 5:19 pm And the entire structure of BMA so far has been to be very light and not top-down or heirarchical or powerful, yet you keep arguing for how it's important to recreate the Vatican.
It seems they may have recreated the DDF, at any rate.
Best post yet on this thread. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry.
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flyingnorm
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Does anybody know the BMA position on identifying someone as demon possessed and thereby a candidate for exorcism? Its related to this thread and a part of the story. However I don’t know if BMA has any position or teaching on this subject. Anybody know?
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JohnH
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flyingnorm wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2026 8:30 pm Does anybody know the BMA position on identifying someone as demon possessed and thereby a candidate for exorcism? Its related to this thread and a part of the story. However I don’t know if BMA has any position or teaching on this subject. Anybody know?
The last time I had a discussion with someone about that, it was apparent it was an "open position" (although I suspect the person I was speaking to, who was in a leadership position, was probably on the fringiest of fringes of what would be the norm in BMA). Basically, BMA seems to allow an open position on charismatic practices.
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flyingnorm
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So who are the main influences in conservative Anabaptist culture who promote exorcism? Are there deliverance ministries or influencers who promote exorcism as the solution for physical and mental health issues including trauma symptoms?
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flyingnorm wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2026 11:41 pm So who are the main influences in conservative Anabaptist culture who promote exorcism? Are there deliverance ministries or influencers who promote exorcism as the solution for physical and mental health issues including trauma symptoms?
Steve Stutzman/Straight Paths
Lapp Brothers
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GelassenheitBnksi
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flyingnorm wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2026 8:30 pm Does anybody know the BMA position on identifying someone as demon possessed and thereby a candidate for exorcism? Its related to this thread and a part of the story. However I don’t know if BMA has any position or teaching on this subject. Anybody know?
Are you suggesting that exorcisms were performed on orphans at LOH?
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