This blog post from Dwight Gingrich might be helpful:
Which Came First–Original Sin or Infant Baptism?
This blog post from Dwight Gingrich might be helpful:
Interesting. Who is Sattler? Can you provide some context to this? It sounds very much like the common evangelical understanding of the Church or a Calvinist understanding of the Church.barnhart wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2026 9:05 am Interesting question. I think at least part of the urge toward believer's baptism came from ecclesiology not theology but I can't say if that was definitive. If my memory serves Sattler wrote/taught a significant amount about a pure church, that is a church composed only of regenerated believers. He used the analogy of an entire bolt of cloth being rendered useless by a single bad thread.
Thank you for providing these quotes. I'll read more closely and probably use these (and other provided quotes) as source material to directly address Ernie's initial question.
This addresses my question, thanks! Of course, now I have more, but I'll have to save that for another thread.ohio jones wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2026 2:45 pm This blog post from Dwight Gingrich might be helpful:
Which Came First–Original Sin or Infant Baptism?
The context was the meeting which produced the Schleitheim Confession in 1527. Michael Sattler was warning against allowing compromise with the state on the issue of baptism. As a former weaver he used the analogy of compromising the strength of the cloth by a single bad thread to illustrate the danger of compromise with the state of the issue of baptism.Coifi wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2026 3:37 pmInteresting. Who is Sattler? Can you provide some context to this? It sounds very much like the common evangelical understanding of the Church or a Calvinist understanding of the Church.barnhart wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2026 9:05 am Interesting question. I think at least part of the urge toward believer's baptism came from ecclesiology not theology but I can't say if that was definitive. If my memory serves Sattler wrote/taught a significant amount about a pure church, that is a church composed only of regenerated believers. He used the analogy of an entire bolt of cloth being rendered useless by a single bad thread.