Benjamin Unruh

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joshuabgood
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Benjamin Unruh

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https://www.goshen.edu/wp-content/uploa ... gme2rCzPmg

Well worth a read. A quite astounding bit of work documenting the ties to Nazi-ism.
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joshuabgood wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 12:39 pm https://www.goshen.edu/wp-content/uploa ... gme2rCzPmg

Well worth a read. A quite astounding bit of work documenting the ties to Nazi-ism.
Would you have had similar objections to the MCC cooperating with the soviets?
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JohnH wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 1:20 pm
joshuabgood wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 12:39 pm https://www.goshen.edu/wp-content/uploa ... gme2rCzPmg

Well worth a read. A quite astounding bit of work documenting the ties to Nazi-ism.
Would you have had similar objections to the MCC cooperating with the soviets?
I wasn't aware that I had raised any objections...can you clarify to what I am objecting?
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joshuabgood wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 1:25 pm
JohnH wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 1:20 pm
joshuabgood wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 12:39 pm https://www.goshen.edu/wp-content/uploa ... gme2rCzPmg

Well worth a read. A quite astounding bit of work documenting the ties to Nazi-ism.
Would you have had similar objections to the MCC cooperating with the soviets?
I wasn't aware that I had raised any objections...can you clarify to what I am objecting?
Claiming ties to Naziism is obviously a negative statement; I find the pearl clutching about it a bit ridiculous, particularly from someone who has a history of being outright sympathetic to Soviet Communists (who won the war anyway, and are repeating it again, with pretty much the same European allies on the other side).
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joshuabgood wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 12:39 pm https://www.goshen.edu/wp-content/uploa ... gme2rCzPmg

Well worth a read. A quite astounding bit of work documenting the ties to Nazi-ism.
Both Gossen (Chosen Nation) and Weaver draw heavily from his scholarship. It serves as a reminder that rejection of "Just War" theory is a fundamental doctrine of the Mennonite church, and those who reject it have effectively ceased to be Mennonite.

IF I ever teach European Civ. or World History (again) I would put this on a reading list. I did not previously, because I was teaching Middle School.

For High school seniors and post-high school, it is a must.
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I can recall two sermons in our church which covered this topic. I wish more conservative Mennonites would raise the issue of our history of relationship with power. I look forward to reading this. The most likely result of hiding history is the loss of the potential to learn from it.
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Re: Benjamin Unruh

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joshuabgood wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 12:39 pm https://www.goshen.edu/wp-content/uploa ... gme2rCzPmg

Well worth a read. A quite astounding bit of work documenting the ties to Nazi-ism.
I just finished reading it. Quite interesting.
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Arnold Newfeldt-Fast is very up-front in telling about this sort of thing, something that I agree is necessary not only for honesty sake, but as a caution for all of us as we encounter the future, what ever it brings. I have linked to some articles of his on various occasions in the past here on the forum, mostly in respect to the challenges faced by those of my people who, for one reason or another, were either unable to leave the Russian Empire, or later, the Soviet Union, or chose to stay, perhaps thinking that the situation would reverse itself after the initial upheaval. I have not met him in person, but have interacted with him on the FaceBook group for 'Russian Mennonite' history and genealogy. I have copied many of his writings over the last nearly 4 years. Much of it is rather unpleasant to read, but I do think that it is necessary to do so.
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Neto wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 8:15 pm Arnold Newfeldt-Fast is very up-front in telling about this sort of thing, something that I agree is necessary not only for honesty sake, but as a caution for all of us as we encounter the future, what ever it brings. I have linked to some articles of his on various occasions in the past here on the forum, mostly in respect to the challenges faced by those of my people who, for one reason or another, were either unable to leave the Russian Empire, or later, the Soviet Union, or chose to stay, perhaps thinking that the situation would reverse itself after the initial upheaval. I have not met him in person, but have interacted with him on the FaceBook group for 'Russian Mennonite' history and genealogy. I have copied many of his writings over the last nearly 4 years. Much of it is rather unpleasant to read, but I do think that it is necessary to do so.
THat was a period of history many would like to forget. My wife got like 2/3 through Gossen's "Chosen Nation" before she had to put it down, and could read no more. It has forced me to come to the conclusion, if we lose nonresistance, we lose everything. It is just a matter of time.
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