Learned something cool today
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JohnL
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Learned something cool today
I found out that the German word for history has the German word for "layers" in it.
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Free Will Baptist <-> Anabaptist
”Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.” Robert Martz
”Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.” Robert Martz
Re: Learned something cool today
Layers as in levels or layers as in chickens?
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Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.
I think I am funnier than I really am.
I think I am funnier than I really am.
Re: Learned something cool today
Geschichte? That’s pretty common in German. It’s super easy to build German words from other words, which is why they have some super long words. What’s really interesting is the kind of nuances you get with it — i.e. history being understood as “layers.”
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"Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the fatherless."
-- Isaiah 10:1-2
-- Isaiah 10:1-2
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JohnL
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Re: Learned something cool today
What SZDFAN said.
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Free Will Baptist <-> Anabaptist
”Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.” Robert Martz
”Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.” Robert Martz
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Heirbyadoption
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Re: Learned something cool today
"Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz" - layers indeed. Trying saying THAT one three times fast.
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Re: Learned something cool today
Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz (63 letters)Heirbyadoption wrote: ↑Tue Aug 12, 2025 10:34 am"Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz" - layers indeed. Trying saying THAT one three times fast.If I remember right though, there is another longer one that got in the Guinness Book of World Records, but its not formally recognized or something...
"Beef labeling supervision duties delegation law" — a now-obsolete law from Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. It’s often cited as one of the longest words to have appeared in official use, but you don't see it in normal German.
Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft (79 letters)
"Association for subordinate officials of the head office management of the Danube steamboat electrical services" — a famously playful example, not generally used in daily life.
Grundstücksverkehrsgenehmigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsverordnung (67 letters)
"Regulation on the delegation of authority concerning land conveyance permissions" — a genuine bureaucratic term that you will see in the wild.
Here are some more you see in real life:
Kraftfahrzeug-Haftpflichtversicherung (36 letters)
"Motor vehicle liability insurance" — appears in insurance policies, accident reports, and legal forms involving traffic accidents.
Bundesausbildungsförderungsgesetz (36 letters)
"Federal Training Assistance Act" — the official name of the German law (BAföG) regulating student financial aid.
Krankenhausbehandlungskostenabrechnung (39 letters)
"Hospital treatment cost billing" — used in hospital administration and insurance paperwork to itemize patient charges.
Lebensmittelüberwachungsbehörde (33 letters)
"Food safety inspection authority" — refers to the government body responsible for enforcing food safety standards.
Verkehrsinfrastrukturfinanzierungsgesellschaft (43 letters)
"Transport infrastructure financing company" — the official name of an organization managing German transport project funding.
Arbeitsunfähigkeitsbescheinigung (32 letters)
"Doctor’s certificate of incapacity to work" — a required document for workplace sick leave.
Rentenversicherungsbeitragsnachweis (39 letters)
"Pension insurance contribution statement" — an official report for Germany’s public retirement system.
Datenschutzgrundverordnung (31 letters)
"General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR)" — the EU privacy regulation, widely mentioned in compliance notices and websites.
Waffenbesitzkartenpflicht (29 letters)
"Requirement to have a firearms possession card" — used in discussions about German gun laws and permits.
Verkehrssicherheitsüberprüfung (33 letters)
"Traffic safety inspection" — refers to official checks on vehicles or infrastructure to ensure compliance with safety standards.
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1. Are we discussing the topic? Good.
2. Are we going around and around in a fight? Let's stop doing that.
3. Is there some serious wrongdoing or relational injury? Let's address that, probably not in public and certainly not for show.
2. Are we going around and around in a fight? Let's stop doing that.
3. Is there some serious wrongdoing or relational injury? Let's address that, probably not in public and certainly not for show.
Re: Learned something cool today
Sadly, this isn’t the origin of the word.
Schicht (“layer”) looks like the -schichte in Geschichte, but they come from different roots and are not historically related.
In Middle High German, geschihte meant “event” or “story of events,” evolving into today’s “history.” It comes from the past participle geschehen → geschehen/geschicht in older forms of German.
So I’m afraid etymology — like history — has many layers. And no, not chickens. “Layers” as in strata and “layers” as in hens that lay eggs actually do come from the same root.
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1. Are we discussing the topic? Good.
2. Are we going around and around in a fight? Let's stop doing that.
3. Is there some serious wrongdoing or relational injury? Let's address that, probably not in public and certainly not for show.
2. Are we going around and around in a fight? Let's stop doing that.
3. Is there some serious wrongdoing or relational injury? Let's address that, probably not in public and certainly not for show.
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ohio jones
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Re: Learned something cool today
There’s a great power in words, if you don’t hitch too many of them together. ~ Josh Billings, who was obviously not German
Pity the Deutsche Schulkinder who have to learn to spell their address:
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (21 letters excluding the hyphen)
Ohio (4 letters)
Pity the Deutsche Schulkinder who have to learn to spell their address:
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (21 letters excluding the hyphen)
Ohio (4 letters)
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Re: Learned something cool today
I stand corrected. Thanks.Bootstrap wrote: ↑Tue Aug 12, 2025 11:19 amSadly, this isn’t the origin of the word.
Schicht (“layer”) looks like the -schichte in Geschichte, but they come from different roots and are not historically related.
In Middle High German, geschihte meant “event” or “story of events,” evolving into today’s “history.” It comes from the past participle geschehen → geschehen/geschicht in older forms of German.
So I’m afraid etymology — like history — has many layers. And no, not chickens. “Layers” as in strata and “layers” as in hens that lay eggs actually do come from the same root.
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"Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the fatherless."
-- Isaiah 10:1-2
-- Isaiah 10:1-2
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Heirbyadoption
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Re: Learned something cool today
Imagine the killing we could make if we started holding motivational conferences on punctuation and word simplification...Bootstrap wrote: ↑Tue Aug 12, 2025 10:41 amRindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz (63 letters)Heirbyadoption wrote: ↑Tue Aug 12, 2025 10:34 am"Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz" - layers indeed. Trying saying THAT one three times fast.If I remember right though, there is another longer one that got in the Guinness Book of World Records, but its not formally recognized or something...
"Beef labeling supervision duties delegation law" — a now-obsolete law from Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. It’s often cited as one of the longest words to have appeared in official use, but you don't see it in normal German.
Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft (79 letters)
"Association for subordinate officials of the head office management of the Danube steamboat electrical services" — a famously playful example, not generally used in daily life.
Grundstücksverkehrsgenehmigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsverordnung (67 letters)
"Regulation on the delegation of authority concerning land conveyance permissions" — a genuine bureaucratic term that you will see in the wild.
Here are some more you see in real life:
Kraftfahrzeug-Haftpflichtversicherung (36 letters)
"Motor vehicle liability insurance" — appears in insurance policies, accident reports, and legal forms involving traffic accidents.
Bundesausbildungsförderungsgesetz (36 letters)
"Federal Training Assistance Act" — the official name of the German law (BAföG) regulating student financial aid.
Krankenhausbehandlungskostenabrechnung (39 letters)
"Hospital treatment cost billing" — used in hospital administration and insurance paperwork to itemize patient charges.
Lebensmittelüberwachungsbehörde (33 letters)
"Food safety inspection authority" — refers to the government body responsible for enforcing food safety standards.
Verkehrsinfrastrukturfinanzierungsgesellschaft (43 letters)
"Transport infrastructure financing company" — the official name of an organization managing German transport project funding.
Arbeitsunfähigkeitsbescheinigung (32 letters)
"Doctor’s certificate of incapacity to work" — a required document for workplace sick leave.
Rentenversicherungsbeitragsnachweis (39 letters)
"Pension insurance contribution statement" — an official report for Germany’s public retirement system.
Datenschutzgrundverordnung (31 letters)
"General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR)" — the EU privacy regulation, widely mentioned in compliance notices and websites.
Waffenbesitzkartenpflicht (29 letters)
"Requirement to have a firearms possession card" — used in discussions about German gun laws and permits.
Verkehrssicherheitsüberprüfung (33 letters)
"Traffic safety inspection" — refers to official checks on vehicles or infrastructure to ensure compliance with safety standards.
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