I will Remember Them (the Holodomor)

[Neto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vndi4lTOhlE

[QuietlyListening]

Thank you for sharing- horrific for these people.

[Neto]

Thank you for sharing- horrific for these people.

Being "Russian Mennonite" some of my relatives were there, and I have read some of the first-hand accounts from the Mennonite experience. (Not my ancestors - they all got out before the fall of the Russian Empire - just some relatives.)

[temporal1]

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[Sudsy]

Thankyou, I was not familiar with this history. One terrible way to take over a city is to surround it until people run out of food and die.

When watching it I kept thinking of how something similar has happened here in North America and we continue to discover treatments of First Nation people in the past. And often throughout history the abuse of others is by some who considered themselves Christian.

I am waiting to see how our local green house operations get involved taking in those fleeing from Ukraine. They are currently farmed by Mexican people and often owned by wealthy folks with Mennonite background. I suspect there will or already is some things in motion to bring them here and give them jobs in the mega greenhouses that continue to be built and needing workers. My guess is that we have considerable Ukraine connections in our Mennonite community here.

Communists have been very brutal throughout history and so have those claiming to be 'free'. The basic problem is still and always will be the affects of sin in this world. O how this world needs Jesus ! God has His plan to say when enough is enough. We, too, may have seen our best days and might experience things we now think impossible. I feel more thankful each day to have lived and still living in such a great country. To complain about anything here, I would think, is a major sin to struggle with. God forgive us.

[Josh]

Thankyou, I was not familiar with this history. One terrible way to take over a city is to surround it until people run out of food and die.

When watching it I kept thinking of how something similar has happened here in North America and we continue to discover treatments of First Nation people in the past. And often throughout history the abuse of others is by some who considered themselves Christian.

I am waiting to see how our local green house operations get involved taking in those fleeing from Ukraine. They are currently farmed by Mexican people and often owned by wealthy folks with Mennonite background. I suspect there will or already is some things in motion to bring them here and give them jobs in the mega greenhouses that continue to be built and needing workers. My guess is that we have considerable Ukraine connections in our Mennonite community here.

Communists have been very brutal throughout history and so have those claiming to be 'free'. The basic problem is still and always will be the affects of sin in this world. O how this world needs Jesus ! God has His plan to say when enough is enough. We, too, may have seen our best days and might experience things we now think impossible. I feel more thankful each day to have lived and still living in such a great country. To complain about anything here, I would think, is a major sin to struggle with. God forgive us.

Ukrainians migrating to Canada or the U.S. are probably not interested in agricultural unskilled jobs - at least, the ones I'm familiar with go after higher paying jobs or run their own businesses.

[Ken]

Thankyou, I was not familiar with this history. One terrible way to take over a city is to surround it until people run out of food and die.

When watching it I kept thinking of how something similar has happened here in North America and we continue to discover treatments of First Nation people in the past. And often throughout history the abuse of others is by some who considered themselves Christian.

I am waiting to see how our local green house operations get involved taking in those fleeing from Ukraine. They are currently farmed by Mexican people and often owned by wealthy folks with Mennonite background. I suspect there will or already is some things in motion to bring them here and give them jobs in the mega greenhouses that continue to be built and needing workers. My guess is that we have considerable Ukraine connections in our Mennonite community here.

Communists have been very brutal throughout history and so have those claiming to be 'free'. The basic problem is still and always will be the affects of sin in this world. O how this world needs Jesus ! God has His plan to say when enough is enough. We, too, may have seen our best days and might experience things we now think impossible. I feel more thankful each day to have lived and still living in such a great country. To complain about anything here, I would think, is a major sin to struggle with. God forgive us.

Ukrainians migrating to Canada or the U.S. are probably not interested in agricultural unskilled jobs - at least, the ones I'm familiar with go after higher paying jobs or run their own businesses.

I have two Ukrainian immigrant kids in my classes. Both of their dads are truck drivers so that is a sample size of two.

We recently had some floors in our house redone. The carpet crew was Mexican and the hardwood floor crew was Ukrainian. The floor contractor told me that all his carpet crews were Mexican and all his hard floor crews were Ukrainian and Russian. I found it interesting that there was such specificity of tasks and division of labor between immigrant groups.

[Valerie]

Thankyou, I was not familiar with this history. One terrible way to take over a city is to surround it until people run out of food and die.

When watching it I kept thinking of how something similar has happened here in North America and we continue to discover treatments of First Nation people in the past. And often throughout history the abuse of others is by some who considered themselves Christian.

I am waiting to see how our local green house operations get involved taking in those fleeing from Ukraine. They are currently farmed by Mexican people and often owned by wealthy folks with Mennonite background. I suspect there will or already is some things in motion to bring them here and give them jobs in the mega greenhouses that continue to be built and needing workers. My guess is that we have considerable Ukraine connections in our Mennonite community here.

Communists have been very brutal throughout history and so have those claiming to be 'free'. The basic problem is still and always will be the affects of sin in this world. O how this world needs Jesus ! God has His plan to say when enough is enough. We, too, may have seen our best days and might experience things we now think impossible. I feel more thankful each day to have lived and still living in such a great country. To complain about anything here, I would think, is a major sin to struggle with. God forgive us.

Ukrainians migrating to Canada or the U.S. are probably not interested in agricultural unskilled jobs - at least, the ones I'm familiar with go after higher paying jobs or run their own businesses.

I have two Ukrainian immigrant kids in my classes. Both of their dads are truck drivers so that is a sample size of two.

We recently had some floors in our house redone. The carpet crew was Mexican and the hardwood floor crew was Ukrainian. The floor contractor told me that all his carpet crews were Mexican and all his hard floor crews were Ukrainian and Russian. I found it interesting that there was such specificity of tasks and division of labor between immigrant groups.

Interesting- i would think the language barrier causes this. Working together, understanding one another is important. Having grown up in Southern California Mexicans were a big part of our working communities and they knew very little English for some time. Now that we're in Ohio and more and more Mexicans seem to be arriving working in restaurants they're not always that easy to communicate with in English so I can see how keeping them in their groups doing specific jobs would work better.

[Ken]

Ukrainians migrating to Canada or the U.S. are probably not interested in agricultural unskilled jobs - at least, the ones I'm familiar with go after higher paying jobs or run their own businesses.

I have two Ukrainian immigrant kids in my classes. Both of their dads are truck drivers so that is a sample size of two.

We recently had some floors in our house redone. The carpet crew was Mexican and the hardwood floor crew was Ukrainian. The floor contractor told me that all his carpet crews were Mexican and all his hard floor crews were Ukrainian and Russian. I found it interesting that there was such specificity of tasks and division of labor between immigrant groups.

Interesting- i would think the language barrier causes this. Working together, understanding one another is important. Having grown up in Southern California Mexicans were a big part of our working communities and they knew very little English for some time. Now that we're in Ohio and more and more Mexicans seem to be arriving working in restaurants they're not always that easy to communicate with in English so I can see how keeping them in their groups doing specific jobs would work better.

Also in construction they are all separate subcontractors and they tend to all hire who they know. So it isn't a big flooring company hiring different ethnicities directly and channeling them into segregated work crews. It is a big flooring company that works with 20 different subcontractors and installers who all happen to self-segregate their own crews and all have their own niches and specialties.

Language is usually not that big of a deal in the construction trades anyway. I've worked on big fishing trawlers and giant fish processing plants in Alaska where 10+ languages were spoken and it was never really that much of a problem. People quickly figure it out and learn how to communicate as necessary.

[barnhart]

Interesting and painful history. I knew the Soviets punished rebellious provinces with manufactured famine but I couldn't have said it was Ukraine. I also wouldn't have guessed so many deaths, twice the number of the Bengal man made famine.