God Bless the USA inscribed on munitions

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I have had to enlighten people many times that Smish do indeed pay taxes AND do not take from government that they pay into (although many will come back with ways they do benefit) just saying it’s a common misconception they don’t pay taxes.
Thanks for the chuckle this morning. I am so glad the "smish" pay taxes like everyone else.
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Grace wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2026 10:14 am
I have had to enlighten people many times that Smish do indeed pay taxes AND do not take from government that they pay into (although many will come back with ways they do benefit) just saying it’s a common misconception they don’t pay taxes.
Thanks for the chuckle this morning. I am so glad the "smish" pay taxes like everyone else.
I try to make you all chuckle often with my typos
(Others may just slap their heads, OJ probably always has a red forehead)
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Grace wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2026 10:14 am
I have had to enlighten people many times that Smish do indeed pay taxes AND do not take from government that they pay into (although many will come back with ways they do benefit) just saying it’s a common misconception they don’t pay taxes.
Thanks for the chuckle this morning. I am so glad the "smish" pay taxes like everyone else.
I think Smish has showed up before. AI must be adjusting accordingly.
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Ernie wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2026 10:35 am
Grace wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2026 10:14 am
I have had to enlighten people many times that Smish do indeed pay taxes AND do not take from government that they pay into (although many will come back with ways they do benefit) just saying it’s a common misconception they don’t pay taxes.
Thanks for the chuckle this morning. I am so glad the "smish" pay taxes like everyone else.
I think Smish has showed up before. AI must be adjusting accordingly.
I asked ChatGPT this question:
Do the Smish pay taxes in the US? Do they receive government benefits?
Response:

Yes. The Amish generally do pay taxes in the U.S., but they have a few specific religious exemptions. They also generally avoid government benefits, though there are some limited exceptions.

Taxes the Amish Pay

The Amish pay most of the same taxes other Americans pay, including:
  • Federal income tax
  • State income tax
  • Property tax
  • Sales tax
  • Business taxes
  • Capital gains tax
A common myth is that the Amish “don’t pay taxes.” That is false.

What They Are Exempt From

Many Amish are exempt from:
  • Social Security taxes
  • Medicare taxes
This exemption exists because Amish religious teaching emphasizes caring for community members directly rather than participating in government insurance systems. The exemption is handled through IRS Form 4029.

Important details:
  • They must waive their right to receive Social Security and Medicare benefits in return.
  • This exemption mainly applies to self-employed Amish or Amish working for Amish employers.
  • Amish working for non-Amish employers may still have payroll taxes withheld.
Do They Receive Government Benefits?

Generally, the Amish try not to rely on government assistance. Their communities traditionally provide financial help, medical assistance, elder care, disability support, and help after disasters through church and community mutual aid.

Usually Avoided

Most Amish avoid Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, and unemployment insurance because accepting these programs conflicts with their religious emphasis on community responsibility and separation from the state.

But There Are Exceptions

Reality is a little more complicated than the stereotype.

Some Amish individuals or communities may use certain public services or benefits, especially emergency medical care, disaster relief, public roads, occasional Medicaid for catastrophic medical expenses, and public schooling accommodations in some situations.

Different Amish groups are stricter or looser about this. The Amish are not one centralized organization. Some communities are more conservative than others.

Bottom line: The Amish generally pay normal taxes except Social Security and Medicare taxes, and they generally avoid government benefits, relying instead on community support systems. But there are occasional exceptions depending on the community and situation.
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Bootstrap wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 11:12 am Some Amish individuals or communities may use certain public services or benefits, especially emergency medical care, disaster relief, public roads, occasional Medicaid for catastrophic medical expenses, and public schooling accommodations in some situations.
I’m curious how the Amish would opt out using public roads.
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 11:35 am
Bootstrap wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 11:12 am Some Amish individuals or communities may use certain public services or benefits, especially emergency medical care, disaster relief, public roads, occasional Medicaid for catastrophic medical expenses, and public schooling accommodations in some situations.
I’m curious how the Amish would opt out using public roads.
Those are called "Rocket Amish" a old group but not as old as some. They came around with the advent of steam power learning the arcane ways to travel the air with steam.
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 11:35 am
Bootstrap wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 11:12 am Some Amish individuals or communities may use certain public services or benefits, especially emergency medical care, disaster relief, public roads, occasional Medicaid for catastrophic medical expenses, and public schooling accommodations in some situations.
I’m curious how the Amish would opt out using public roads.
Have you read the book, "The Smish Family Robinson"?
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Soloist wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 11:40 am
Szdfan wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 11:35 am
Bootstrap wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 11:12 am Some Amish individuals or communities may use certain public services or benefits, especially emergency medical care, disaster relief, public roads, occasional Medicaid for catastrophic medical expenses, and public schooling accommodations in some situations.
I’m curious how the Amish would opt out using public roads.
Those are called "Rocket Amish" a old group but not as old as some. They came around with the advent of steam power learning the arcane ways to travel the air with steam.
Ah. What’s referred to in nerdier quarters as “steampunk.”
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 12:07 pm
Soloist wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 11:40 am
Szdfan wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 11:35 am
I’m curious how the Amish would opt out using public roads.
Those are called "Rocket Amish" a old group but not as old as some. They came around with the advent of steam power learning the arcane ways to travel the air with steam.
Ah. What’s referred to in nerdier quarters as “steampunk.”
Well you should know that the Amish would never use "punk" in their name. :mrgreen:
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Soloist wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 12:09 pm
Szdfan wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 12:07 pm
Soloist wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2026 11:40 am

Those are called "Rocket Amish" a old group but not as old as some. They came around with the advent of steam power learning the arcane ways to travel the air with steam.
Ah. What’s referred to in nerdier quarters as “steampunk.”
Well you should know that the Amish would never use "punk" in their name. :mrgreen:
I’m using external anthropological terminology. :)

I bet the Smish don’t have all those hot romances described in those books either.
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"Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the fatherless."

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